About the Q400 landing

  • When I did my PPL I had a great instructor, it's been years but we always kept in touch. I gave him a call, to my surprise and for family reason he is bask flying the Q400 for Air Canada (he was on a A320-200), so I ask him a few questions on landing the Q400 and explained how our simulator behave VS the real thing. Since he is a bit far away we decided to watch together a few Youtube video of some cockpit view landing.


    So I did a few landing and filmed everything and showed him.


    First he was amazed by the realism of the simulator, he didn't know that public Simulator where so realistic.


    First the rudder (yaw) trimming, that a true as hell but mostly on power variation, not much where you set for landing. He saw that on landing I was playing constantly with the yaw trim and he told me, well stop that and fly the plane :P meaning use the rudder <X if needed.


    Flap at landing, IPACS is right, not fully extracted unless you are doing a STOL landing and also it's depending n the wind.


    Flaring, about none with a Q400, I said why? He replied it want to fly at all cost, we even have to push it down and sometime keep some elevator down wile braking (see the video bellow) , I laugh when he said simply, it's a high wing thing :)


    Power at landing (if the slope is good), about 15% and you may go up to 30-35% (see last video) before-at flaring... or NOT.


    He said to conclude, it's a more sensitive plane in general....


    Ben

    ps. I will put mine online later, maybe some other could do so, that could be fun.





    BennyBoy. I5 8600K @ 4,3ghz, 16 ram, GTX 1060 6G @ UW @2560 X 1080. Sim: AF2 & P3D V4

  • I don't know where this 'no flare' nonsense comes from.

    In all 3 above posted videos you can clearly see a noticeable flare!

    As a reference simply compare the position of the white eye-level indicators and the horizon.

  • Some planes auto flare in ground effect and this can even be simulated in aerofly.

    So the pilot may not need to pull any aft elevator to flare the aircraft but of course the pitch still increases. From my experience pilots don't know what they do compared to what the plane does on its own 8o

  • By flare I mean keeping the nose up longer to bleed some speed and for smoother landing, a perfect landing is a controlled stall (GA plane not Airliner)






    BennyBoy. I5 8600K @ 4,3ghz, 16 ram, GTX 1060 6G @ UW @2560 X 1080. Sim: AF2 & P3D V4

  • By flare I mean keeping the nose up longer to bleed some speed and for smoother landing, a perfect landing is a controlled stall (GA plane not Airliner)

    The reason for the flare (pitch increase) is not to bleed speed, but to reduce the ROD.

    Concerning GA planes; Not every GA plane should be landed in a stalled condition and you definitely don't to the get that slow for a perfect landing.

    The guy in the second video unintentionally demonstrates how difficult directional control becomes once you get really slow.

    Just look at the 3:10 point how far he deviates from the centerline.

  • My friend read your post... and he said let it go Ben....


    I have over 2000 hours of flight time... Rogers who is the pilot of the Q400 as close to 15,000 hours.


    So think what you want...


    Ben

    BennyBoy. I5 8600K @ 4,3ghz, 16 ram, GTX 1060 6G @ UW @2560 X 1080. Sim: AF2 & P3D V4