Kann man France VFR - Paris-Ile-de-France unter Vulkan Spielen??

  • Ja, warum ?

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  • Weil ich mal irgendwo gelesen habe das es unter Vulkan nicht läuft.

    Und wenn ich mir die negativen Bewertungen so anschau bei Steam,lasse ich lieber die Hände davon:!: X/


    MFG Enrico

    Macht aber kein Sinn. Szenarien haben gar nichts mit API zu tun.

    Vulkan hat ja einige Problemen gehabt, wurden aber bei IPACS behoben.

    Seit mehreren Wochen läuft Vulkan einwandfrei bei mir...

    Gruss

    Antoine

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  • Aber was hast du für Graphik-Karte? Mindestens 8Go VRAM würde ich empfehlen...

    Gruss

    Antoine

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  • Ok, dann kann ich dich nur noch viel Spass wünschen !

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  • Aber was hast du für Graphik-Karte? Mindestens 8Go VRAM würde ich empfehlen...

    Gruss

    Antoine

    Désolé de te dire Antoine, Vulkan ne réagi pas chez moi, tout au moins la souris qui ne réagi plus? GTX 880, et 8 Go de ram, peut'être que ma carte est trop ancienne, et mon dernier pilote qui à été mis à jour est 425.31

    Salutations

    Pascal

    Best wishes 😉

    Pascal

    AFS2 / FS4 / MSFS / - Intel(R) Core i7 -12800HX 4.80 GHz - DDR5 4800MHz 32 Go - NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 3070 Ti 8 GB GDDR6X - 2x 2 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4

  • Désolé de te dire Antoine, Vulkan ne réagi pas chez moi, tout au moins la souris qui ne réagi plus? GTX 880, et 8 Go de ram, peut'être que ma carte est trop ancienne, et mon dernier pilote qui à été mis à jour est 425.31

    Salutations

    Pascal

    J'ai 8Go de VRAM.

    Sur les menus, la souris réagissait extrêmement lentement avec Vulkan jusqu'à la dernière mise à jour du pilote graphique. Depuis ça réagit normalement.

    Mais encore une fois, ça n'a rien à voir avec une scène ou un avion, c'est le comportement d'AFS2 sous Vulkan.

    Avec mon matériel, j'ai des performances très similaires avec OpenGL et Vulkan, donc si Open GL est plus stable et que vous n'avez pas non plus de différence significative de performances entre les deux API, je ne peux que conseiller Open GL...

    A+

    Antoine

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  • sur une GT755 d'un vieil IMac de 2012, ça tourne moins mal que la version OpenGL, donc ce n'est pas forcément l'âge du GPU qui est en jeu. En revanche il y a des merdouilles sur les GPU intégrées des tous nouveaux MacBookPro (corrigées sur les nouvelles Steam, donc c'est bien le comportement d'AFS2 qui est en jeu).

    My two cents

    G

  • hello, sorry to answer in english, I don't speak german.

    Here is my experience with Steam / Aerofly FS 2 / France VFR - Paris with a GTX 1060 / 8 Go RAM:

    - Vulkan does not work when I fly close to Paris. It works when I am far away in the areas with a few 3D details, but as soon as I get closer to Paris, there is a crash.

    - if I switch to OpenGL, ok it works on Paris, but with a slow frame rate (< 30 fps)

    - whatever OpenGL or Vulkan, I also have some problems when I fly at low altitude for landing: the frame rate dramatically slows down which makes the simulator almost unusable for this flight phase, even in the areas with a few 3D details (for example the aerodrome of Etampes where there is only satellite images and 3D trees).

    I think there are still some work required for this DLC because for other DLC (San Francisco for example), the framerate and image quality is perfect for me with Vulkan ("ultra" quality, CAVOK, 60 fps, 1080p).

  • I think there are still some work required for this DLC because for other DLC (San Francisco for example), the framerate and image quality is perfect for me with Vulkan ("ultra" quality, CAVOK, 60 fps, 1080p).

    If you only get 60 FPS over a scenery like San Francisco then either some setting is not optimal, or your system is somewhat weak for running a flight simulator.

    With my rather mid-range system (check my signature) I'm ranging 250-350 FPS over San Fransisco both with OpenGL or Vulkan, and I get 80-100 FPS at the lowest over Paris downtown, with approx 200FPS on the countryside.

    Below is a screenshot taken tonight cruising at 2'000ft right over the densest part of the City, top left number is the FPS, 1080p, ULTRA settings


    What PC are you running, CPU and speed ?

    GTX 1060 is a rather low range graphic card, but 8Go VRAM are ok.

    There are 2 things I can recommend to gain some FPS on Paris :

    1) try reducing the shadows settings that request quite a lot of resources - medium gives excellent visual results.

    2) try disabling the lights by renaming the folder "idf_lights" as "__idf_lights" (adding a double underscore "__" prefix) in the scenery \places structures.

    Let me know if this improves the flyability.

    What I noticed is Vulkan is less stable and forgiving than OpenGL - as soon as something goes into the way it crashes to desk

    Cheers

    Antoine

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    Edited once, last by Trespassers (May 10, 2020 at 12:13 AM).

  • It is probably a GTX1060 with only 3GB VRAM like mine, and 8GB of system RAM? As far as I know the GTX1060 is sold with 3GB or 6GB of VRAM.

    I have low frame rates over Paris and the Netherlands too, saving up for a GTX1660 Super now... The 3GB VRAM of the 1060 is the problem.

    In VR ( 1440x1440 for each eye) I have to go down to medium settings at LOWI Innsbruck for a smooth experience with my current system. Paris and the Netherlands will have to wait for a better videocard.

    Regards,

    Peter Splinter

    i5-7400@3,4 GHz, 16GB RAM, GTX 1660 Super, Pico 4, Quest 2 , 'Vintage' Pro Flight Trainer, X52 Pro, VKB pedals

    Edited 4 times, last by PjotR22 (May 10, 2020 at 1:39 AM).

  • Danke,genau das ist das Problem was ich schon so oft gehört habe!!

    Ich werde mir das DLC nicht kaufen,schade um die 35 Euro:!:

    Mit einer GTX 1080TI mit 11Go VRAM machst du dich keine Sorgen, es geht hier nur um billigen low-end Grafik-Karten... und sowieso kannst du ganz einfach Refund verlangen falls dir das DLC nicht gefällt... einfacher gibt es nicht.

    Aber mach was du willst. Niemand muss DLC kaufen. Niemand muss unbedingt jeder DLC selber ausprobieren, bevor sich seine eigene Ahnung aus Erfahrung aufzubauen.

    Wenn DLCs den Flug Simulator runterziehen, einfach kein DLC installieren und so bleibt AFS2 wie neu...

    Gruss

    Antoine

    Config : i7 6900K - 20MB currently set at 3.20GHz, Cooling Noctua NH-U14S, Motherboard ASUS Rampage V Extreme U3.1, RAM HyperX Savage Black Edition 16GB DDR4 3000 MHz, Graphic Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB, Power supply Corsair RM Series 850W, Windows 10 64 bit.

    Edited 4 times, last by Trespassers (May 10, 2020 at 2:37 PM).

  • It is probably a GTX1060 with only 3GB VRAM like mine, and 8GB of system RAM? As far as I know the GTX1060 is sold with 3GB or 6GB of VRAM.

    You're right, I just looked at the GTX1060 specs, the 3Go VRAM model has no chance, the minimal spec is 6Go VRAM, recommended 8Go...

    The 3Go GC may work with older generation simulators if the CPU is strong enough, but current and upcoming simulators request much more VRAM to run.

    Cheers

    Antoine

    Config : i7 6900K - 20MB currently set at 3.20GHz, Cooling Noctua NH-U14S, Motherboard ASUS Rampage V Extreme U3.1, RAM HyperX Savage Black Edition 16GB DDR4 3000 MHz, Graphic Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB, Power supply Corsair RM Series 850W, Windows 10 64 bit.

    Edited 2 times, last by Trespassers (May 10, 2020 at 7:37 PM).

  • Okay,

    ich möchte mich entschuldigen, ich werde mir das DLC irgendwann kaufen und mir selbst ein Urteil bilden.

    Ich war irgendwie enttäuscht weil alles so lange dauert,ob wohl ich weiß es ist nur ein kleines Team. Tut mir Leid:!:

    MFG Enrico:)

    Edited once, last by NE-76 (May 10, 2020 at 2:44 PM).

  • You're right, it is 8 Go of RAM, and 3 Go VRAM, my other spec are Intel i5, 2.3 GHz

    I get 60 fps with VSYNC on. With VSYNC off, I get 120 fps on San Francisco with ultra/ lens flare on / vulkan / anti aliasing on.

    With my Acer VR mask, I also get a very good quality and frame rate with the same settings.

    So for me, my PC is still very good for the Aerofly FS2 simulator, which I consider to be the best one for graphic quality optimization.

    I am just disappointed about Paris DLC, because I thought that I would get the same performances when I bought it.

    But I should have paid attention to the minimal requirements on the Steam store page ...

    I tried your settings advice (medium shadow and disabling lights), but I still get a crash with Vulkan.

    I will also try different settings with OpenGL to get the best fps.

    Above Etampes airport (N48.38°, E2.07°), I get 130 fps. With my today's tests, I didn't have the same problems about landing.

    I am not sure why, may be the total time flight, I will investigate.

    Thanks for the help. At least I can use this Paris DLC which is of course beautiful!