Just saw this Thread and checked it for myself. He is right it makes the Camel virtually impossible to fly. Even if I press spawn at nearest airport the aircraft crashes even though there is no visible issue. I rarely fly the Camel but this is definitely an Issue that should be fixed.
It lands fine but it always does a ground loop even when landed directly into the wind. Pulling back ‘stick’ still does not give directional stability once speed has dropped and rudder is no longer effective. If I try to take off from a grass airfield, Compton Abbas in Southern England it instantly crashes on the sim’ Start Button without any input even with calm wind. Landing on grass still gives an unavoidable ground loop. Perhaps the tail skid drag could be increased, perhaps more exponentially with back ‘stick’ pressure?
The actual crash is not when the wing tip hits ground in the ground loop, it is when the plane slows and the wings go level.
Some admin acknowledgment after all this time would be appreciated.
(The Camel at Compton Abbas is also an immediate crash in P.C. The Camel on the more level grass runway at nearby Yeovil starts OK but also terminally ground loops on landing in P.C. The Fokker and Jungmeister land OK in P.C. and mobile with me.).
It lands fine but it always does a ground loop even when landed directly into the wind. Pulling back ‘stick’ still does not give directional stability once speed has dropped and rudder is no longer effective. If I try to take off from a grass airfield, Compton Abbas in Southern England it instantly crashes on the sim’ Start Button without any input even with calm wind. Landing on grass still gives an unavoidable ground loop. Perhaps the tail skid drag could be increased, perhaps more exponentially with back ‘stick’ pressure?
The actual crash is not when the wing tip hits ground in the ground loop, it is when the plane slows and the wings go level.
Some admin acknowledgment after all this time would be appreciated.
I had this experience with many of the old planes and decided to stop using them all at once.
This has been happening for some versions until now so a couple of years minimum. Never got fixed
Admins do seem to be unresponsive to this fault. I tried the Camel in FS2023 and it is the same. It is absent in the FS2019 and FS2021 versions so it is not our simming that is in the wrong.
Repairs and corrections used to a pleasant and consistent positive feature in past years. We can expect uncertainty these days, reported but apparently tolerated faults carry over into the new versions.
I tested the Camel on Compton Abbas myself with zero wind, and they’re right. About “crashing”. The ground loop itself doesn’t seem to be a problem, it’s a tail dragged after all. During the ground loop, one wheel will momentarily lift up and then crash back down again. This is what seems to makes game think that you’ve crashed.
I hope that this is clear enough for the devs. This actually doesn’t seem to be a piloting issue😅
which airport do you use?
which airport do you use?
This happens on every airport.
Jet-Pack (IPACS) please take a look at this. Thanks.
I also have the issue where the plane starts hopping to the left then says crash
Are you thanking Jan for totally ignoring all this?
Are you thanking Jan for totally ignoring all this?
Yes, may be he is ignoring this thread and the relative problem with the Camel, but we have always to be kind and polite, thanking in advance for his work on a fix… Isn’t it, Jet-Pack (IPACS) ?
Well then I wholeheartedly Thank Jan for his potential consideration. He has been very good to us in the past.
