Pitts has the worst ground physics among all aircraft

  • The Pitts in this sim has terrible ground handling while landing. It bounces violently during ground roll, and destroys itself. Please recognize this problem and fix it ASAP.

    My device: iPhone 15, Blue, 128GB(Desperately waiting for 3D buildings)

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    Sincerly, Lee

  • Well, I’m a fan of the Pitts, as you can see from my profile pic, and I have to say that’s not correct what you have written. On landing you have to flare at three/six feet’s from the ground until the plane stalls, so you can lose a lot of speed. Then, when on the ground the plane goes straight for a few seconds then tend to turn on one side, now you have to use a lot of rudder to get it straight and then, when you feel that rudder movements are too wide you have to gently act on breaks, only 20/25% could be ok, at the same time use rudder and in few seconds the plane would be stopped. As of taxing you have to move really slowly spooling up the engine a little (15/20%) to start moving and then back to idle while you move. As soon as I can I will add a video for you.

  • I’m using joystick control, and it is REALLY sensitive. It’s hard to properly flare on light aircraft like Pitts. Yes, I can land the plane if I follow your procedures, but bouncing violently for absolutely no reason while ground roll is a problem to consider.

    My device: iPhone 15, Blue, 128GB(Desperately waiting for 3D buildings)

    읽어주셔서 감사합니다!(Thank you for reading!)

    Sincerly, Lee

  • Please recognize this problem and fix it ASAP.

    Far too many beginners have done no studying of how to fly aeroplanes, how they differ, how advanced aeroplanes need advanced pilot techniques and spend zero time checking out what controls or switches they have accidentally disabled with unconscious sweeping finger movements on mobile device touch screens.

    More time and brain power on learning and less time complaining and reporting SHOCK, HORROR ‘faults’ that must be fixed urgently by admins would serve a lot of beginners well. I’m most definitely not looking at Asiana312 in particular.
    YouTube shows practically up to test pilot standard training material for free for those interested. Reading and understanding is readily accessible and is perfectly rewarding to anybody who has invested in a flight sim in the first place.

  • Overloaded

    I just wanted to report a ‘problem’(at least to me) and I’m just a stupid avnoob who play on stupid mobile device. I issued a violent bouncing during ground roll, not ‘I cAnT lAnD tHe PiTtS’. Your quote is true, but also discouraging. And I am WILLING to learn to properly land this plane. Let beginners like me discover more aviation knowledge freely and get enough help.

    My device: iPhone 15, Blue, 128GB(Desperately waiting for 3D buildings)

    읽어주셔서 감사합니다!(Thank you for reading!)

    Sincerly, Lee

  • Overloaded

    I just wanted to report a ‘problem’(at least to me) and I’m just a stupid avnoob who play on stupid mobile device. I issued a violent bouncing during ground roll, not ‘I cAnT lAnD tHe PiTtS’. Your quote is true, but also discouraging. And I am WILLING to learn to properly land this plane. Let beginners like me discover more aviation knowledge freely and get enough help.

    First try landing with the Jungmeister, you can see better ahead than with the Pitts. Note the horizon position where the plane is on three wheels on the ground, this is the three-point horizon position. Never pull the plane beyond this while landing, but the touch down must be at this horizon position. At first, come in for landing with a little more speed, so you have more time to flare. Sorry if I wrote things you already know.

    Edited once, last by Small Planes (January 21, 2025 at 5:28 PM).

  • @Asiana312: Thank you for your feedback. You are absolutely right, the Pitts is very hard to land on mobile devices. As other users mentioned, the real Pitts is indeed very difficult to lahnd and we tried to set it up just like in reality, to give the user a feeling on how difficult they are to fly.

    So we always have to decide: Do we make all aircraft easy to fly so users don't get frustrated or do we set them up as they would fly in reality. It's always a difficult choice for us.

  • @Asiana312: Thank you for your feedback. You are absolutely right, the Pitts is very hard to land on mobile devices. As other users mentioned, the real Pitts is indeed very difficult to lahnd and we tried to set it up just like in reality, to give the user a feeling on how difficult they are to fly.

    So we always have to decide: Do we make all aircraft easy to fly so users don't get frustrated or do we set them up as they would fly in reality. It's always a difficult choice for us.


    Thank you for your wonderful work on realism. Please remain on the realistic side for our beloved simulator. The Pitts flies and land wonderfully realistic. It’s perfect.

  • You mean, is the violent bouncing during ground loop realistic and does it happen in real life? If it is true, I’m not complaining. But I have a concern:in analog controls, the rudder control is right under the throttle control, and it is just impossible to use both of them simultaneously. This makes Truncana ’s procedures literally impossible to achieve on my cell phone. Please consider to improve design of control elements.

    My device: iPhone 15, Blue, 128GB(Desperately waiting for 3D buildings)

    읽어주셔서 감사합니다!(Thank you for reading!)

    Sincerly, Lee

  • You mean, is the violent bouncing during ground loop realistic and does it happen in real life? If it is true, I’m not complaining. But I have a concern:in analog controls, the rudder control is right under the throttle control, and it is just impossible to use both of them simultaneously. This makes Truncana ’s procedures literally impossible to achieve on my cell phone. Please consider to improve design of control elements.

    Nothing to say about control layout (I use inclination mode), but about bouncing: did you see my video? If you do the landing procedure correctly, the plane would not bounce.

  • Nothing to say about control layout (I use inclination mode), but about bouncing: did you see my video? If you do the landing procedure correctly, the plane would not bounce.

    I saw it, but I can’t use throttle(brake) control and rudder at the same time because of mentioned problem. I can only use up to 2 control elements at the same time.


    My skill is not enough to do stable landing.

    My device: iPhone 15, Blue, 128GB(Desperately waiting for 3D buildings)

    읽어주셔서 감사합니다!(Thank you for reading!)

    Sincerly, Lee

    Edited once, last by Jet-Pack (IPACS): Merged a post created by Asiana312 into this post. (January 22, 2025 at 8:12 AM).

  • You mean, is the violent bouncing during ground loop realistic and does it happen in real life? If it is true, I’m not complaining. But I have a concern:in analog controls, the rudder control is right under the throttle control, and it is just impossible to use both of them simultaneously. This makes Truncana ’s procedures literally impossible to achieve on my cell phone. Please consider to improve design of control elements.

    Yes, jumping is realistic if you flare on too high altitude. Instead of analog, try the tilt control, where your left thumb is the throttle and your right thumb is the rudder. I use this for helicopters too.

  • Gee that was a ten out of ten landing. So violent bouncing and ground looping vanishes with pilot proficiency, training and book learning?
    Supposedly this plane has ‘the worst ground physics’, needing to be recognised and fixed ASAP, dogmatically published here in this forum for all the world of potential Aerofly buyers to see.

  • If the Pitts in the original is difficult to control on the ground, then in my opinion it should also be here in the FS.:)

    Tschüss, Michael (🍎🚁)

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