THE END of www.Flight-Sim.org ... if we found no other server-admin

Hi Jens, sorry to hear this but it is completely understandable.

Thanks to you and to everybody that contributed to the site.

Take care and best regards,

Juan

Hi Jens,

It's sad to have come to this, but at the same time, I understand this situation and your decision.

The worst thing I've noticed isn't just the lack of donations or contributions, but also the lack of a simple thank you, or even a like, for all the authors involved, compared to the number of downloads we've seen.

A world that's increasingly selfish, and above all, one that, for the most part, considers everything to be a given, without even a return.

With the years and hindsight, I wonder if this donation proposal we discussed at the time was ultimately a good solution?

Anyway, a GREAT THANKS to you, Jens and Michael, for keeping this site alive for these 8 years and for graciously sharing these moments with the entire community.

Take care and all the best!

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Hallo zusammen.

Ich habe nach einigen Monaten Hin und Her, nun eine Entscheidung getroffen. ( 100 % fest, darüber müssen wir also nicht diskutieren )

Leider ist die Bereitschaft etwas für den Server zu tun, ( sei es nun gute Dateien mit vernünftigen Screenshots und Erklärungen zu erstellen , oder zumindest mal 2 Eu zu zahlen ) oder auch nur generell im Forum Anfängern zu helfen auf ein Minimum gesunken.

( Von ca. 5200 Usern in den letzten 12 Monaten haben lediglich 36 User etwas gespendet ! )

Es gibt immer nur die gleichen ca 15 aktiven User, die meist sehr viel helfen im Forum, Dateien kostenlos erstellen / hochladen , und auch noch viel spenden.

(DANKE DAFÜR)

Leider hat sich auch kein User gemeldet auf meine Anfrage nach Mithilfe in Punkto Android APP die hochgeladenen Dateien zu checken und dann frei zu geben.
Somit wird diese Webseite / der Server spätestens zum 1.1.2026 ( wenn es keiner übernehmen wird ) gelöscht werden.
Nicht nur meine Arbeitszeit, auch die Kosten werden längst nicht mehr getragen und ich kann und möchte nicht mehr meine (Frei)Zeit und mein Geld weiter opfern für das Projekt.

Ich danke allen Usern die etwas erstellt und hier mitgeholfen haben die letzten 8 Jahre, und besonders Apfelflieger für die Hilfe die letzten Jahre , ebenso auch Ipacs für die Unterstützung mit bezahlten Werbebannern.

Wer also über die technischen Kenntnisse ( und im besten Fall Erfahrung mit Internet-Servern ) hat,
und Bock hat ... möge sich melden, dann wird das Projekt vielleicht weiterleben.

Natürlich würde ich in der Übergangszeit ( sind ja noch 3 Monate) mithelfen es zu übergeben.

mfg Higgy

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Hello everyone.

After several months of back and forth, I've finally made a decision. (100% fixed, so we don't have to discuss that)

Unfortunately, the willingness to do anything for the server (be it creating good files including screenshots and good descriptions) or at least paying two euros) or even just generally helping newbies in the forum has dwindled to a minimum.

(Out of approximately 5,200 users, 36 donations in the last 12 months!)

There are always only the same 15 or so active users, who usually help a lot in the forum, create/upload files for free, and also donate a lot.

(THANKS FOR THAT)

Unfortunately, no user has responded to my request for help with the Android app, checking the uploaded files and then releasing them.
This website/server will therefore be deleted by January 1, 2026 at the latest (if no one takes over).
Not only my working hours, but also the costs are no longer covered, and I can't and don't want to continue sacrificing my (free) time and money for the project.

I would like to thank all the users who have created something and helped here over the past eight years, and especially Apfelflieger for their help over the past few years, as well as Ipacs for their support with paid advertising banners.

So, if anyone has the technical knowledge (and ideally experience with internet servers),

please get in touch, and perhaps the project will survive.

Of course, I would help hand it over during the transition period (there are still three months left).

Best regards, Higgy

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Very, very sad

Just curious, how much content is in the site, in terabytes?

Currently it is just under 1.5 TB.

I was thinking... that maybe some other content suppliers could be interested in providing the files, the first I thought was:

Fly Away Simulation - Freeware Flight Sim Add-ons, News & Community

And maybe in Archive.org?

Interesting, thanks Jens. I hope the actual content could be transfered to somewhere, so it get not lost (I suspect now the site will have a flush of people trying to download it).

Too bad Ricooo was never interested in Aerofly
https://www.rikoooo.com/index.php

It would still be necessary to find an alternative for storing addons/scenery/… [FS2][FS4] and that is the largest part of the hard drive.

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How many GB of data are the aircraft for Aerofly FS 4? Including all repaints, models and mods, but only FS 4, not FS 2 or other sims?

I already host some aircraft over on my private homepage: https://www.aerofly-sim.de/ and if the data size is not too big I could consider hosting the aircraft there.

Moin Jan, an interesting idea.

I have all the planes for the FS 4 from Flight-Sim.org on my computer and the folder has almost 4 GB.

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It would still be necessary to find an alternative for storing addons/scenery/… [FS2][FS4] and that is the largest part of the hard drive.

True, although there are also very big differences:

• AIRPORTS requires relatively little storage space
• POI also requires relatively little storage space
• ELEVATION already requires significantly more storage space, although this group is no longer needed so much today
• IMAGES requires significantly the most storage space

From my point of view, storing the data is one thing, finding it is another - which seems more important to me. I think it would be good if there is a kind of catalog at a point like Flight-Sim.org, where targeted addons can be searched and found. The files themselves could then be stored elsewhere by me and reached via a link.

And I think it would be good if the FS 4 wiki would be updated.

Well, it is very clear what Jens is asking for. Another person or team that it is interested in taking care of the website. I hope someone could do this. I think IPACS could not do it, even if they wanted, since there could be legal issues for a company for holding satellite derived images.

Let's see if someone from the community is interested, I hope so!!!

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The other thing is, I will 100% delete the server and the domain ( or give the domain as a gift for someone who wants to go on with it ).

I know of instances where transfer of domain ownership ended badly: links to the domain once serving files were found to all of the sudden sneaking malware to unsuspecting users.b

Better to turn off everything and keeping the domain as a placeholder than giving it to someone not trustworthy.

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Es gibt maximal 50 -100 Benutzer auf unserem Server (glaube ich), die Herren sind, und mehr als 5000 "Mücken",
Und das ist der Hauptgrund, warum ich aufhören möchte.

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Since the beginning of 2019 I have been registered on Flight-Sim.org, and since then I enjoy the extensive content there for the FS 2 and FS 4. This platform has been enriching my hobby flight simulator since then.

That's why I also offered Jens some time ago to support him as CoAdmin and thus also get to know what to do "behind the scenes". And this own experience is the one that, in addition to my age and my ignorance of technical server administration, led me to my decision not to engage more than before.

I may place my content on GitHub like krzysk, but I think it's a shame if the big addons with IMAGES will be "lost".

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its also the workload and the unfortunately increasing number of users who just complain, take and download
and don't want to give anything and try to cheat.

There are maximum 50 -100 users on our server (I think) , who are gentlemen, and more than 5000 "mosquitoes" ,
and thats the main thing why I want to stop.

Jens, I understand the situation 100%, and I don't question your decision in any way.

The only thing that concerns me is why did you condemn a handful of people for 5000 mosquitoes?

An idea that I think might have seemed simpler was an alternative like https://ko-fi.com/, as krzysk does.

Then release the link accordingly.

It was just an idea, but maybe that wouldn't have changed the problem or the waste of time?

Have a nice day!