F18 missiles

Quote from divadlav

I noticed another small bug with the new F-18C model. When missiles are loaded on the wingtips, they do not follow the wings when folded but remain hovering in mid-air.

I know the F18 quite well because I have already programmed several addons for this aircraft. Hence my question, whether the error you reported occurs with the original F18 from the FS 4 or with third-party addons?

Troubleshooting itself is relatively easy because it was forgotten to include the movement of the wings.

divadlav

In my current FS 4 variant in the FS 4 directory in the folder "red_devils" in the file "option.tmc" the line <[string8][Requirements][ antenna_installed load_center_tank load_tip_sidewinder load_fuselage_aim ]> is missing. Did you add this line to the original FS 4 directory or do you have a copy of the folder "red_devils" in your user directory, e.g. as "red_devils2"? I ask this because changes in the original files of the FS 4 should be omitted.

If you have a copy "red_devils2" of the folder "red_devils" and a copy "load_tip_sidewinder2" of the folder "load_tip_sidewinder" in your user directory under '... /Application Support/Aerofly FS 4/aircraft/f18', the solution is very simple:

Add these lines in the folder "load_tip_sidewinder2" in the "system.tmd":
- <[string8][InputTransform][LeftWingFoldRotation.Output]>
- <[string8][InputTransform][RightWingFoldRotation.Output]>

The "GraphicObjects" section should then look like this:

        <[pointer_list_tmgraphics][GraphicObjects][]

            <[rigidbodygraphics][LeftSidewinder][]
                <[uint32][PositionID][LeftSidewinder.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][LeftSidewinder.Q]>
                <[string8][GeometryList][ SidewinderLeft ]>
                <[string8][InputTransform][LeftWingFoldRotation.Output]>
            >
            <[rigidbodygraphics][RightSidewinder][]
                <[uint32][PositionID][RightSidewinder.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][RightSidewinder.Q]>
                <[string8][GeometryList][ SidewinderRight ]>
                <[string8][InputTransform][RightWingFoldRotation.Output]>
            >

        >

Quote from ApfelFlieger

divadlav

In my current FS 4 variant in the FS 4 directory in the folder "red_devils" in the file "option.tmc" the line <[string8][Requirements][ antenna_installed load_center_tank load_tip_sidewinder load_fuselage_aim ]> is missing. Did you add this line to the original FS 4 directory or do you have a copy of the folder "red_devils" in your user directory, e.g. as "red_devils2"? I ask this because changes in the original files of the FS 4 should be omitted.

If you have a copy "red_devils2" of the folder "red_devils" and a copy "load_tip_sidewinder2" of the folder "load_tip_sidewinder" in your user directory under '... /Application Support/Aerofly FS 4/aircraft/f18', the solution is very simple:

Add these lines in the folder "load_tip_sidewinder2" in the "system.tmd":
- <[string8][InputTransform][LeftWingFoldRotation.Output]>
- <[string8][InputTransform][RightWingFoldRotation.Output]>

The "GraphicObjects" section should then look like this:

Code

        <[pointer_list_tmgraphics][GraphicObjects][]

            <[rigidbodygraphics][LeftSidewinder][]
                <[uint32][PositionID][LeftSidewinder.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][LeftSidewinder.Q]>
                <[string8][GeometryList][ SidewinderLeft ]>
                <[string8][InputTransform][LeftWingFoldRotation.Output]>
            >
            <[rigidbodygraphics][RightSidewinder][]
                <[uint32][PositionID][RightSidewinder.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][RightSidewinder.Q]>
                <[string8][GeometryList][ SidewinderRight ]>
                <[string8][InputTransform][RightWingFoldRotation.Output]>
            >

        >

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Hi Michael,

The changelog looks correct, however, something is still causing it to fail?

Unlike Matt's previous version, Options Pack 1 Loadout 1 - 9
See the comparison of the two images.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Hi Pascal,

I assume that IPACS will revise a lot on the F18 over time.

As a transitional solution, I have created a small addon with which the external loads 4x missiles (positions stores 1, 4, 6 and 9) and 5x pylons and tanks (positions stores 2, 3, 5, 7 and as well as the search light, the comantennas and the uppergps on all F18 variants can be displayed. "Optical" means that it is exclusively about visibility and there are no mass-simultions.

The trick is that the elements are hidden in the fuselage of the F18 when invisible. I had to ponder a little that pushing into the hull also works when the wings are folded.

Instructions for operation are described in the __README.txt. The basic principle is that there are virtual click spots in the views CameraCockpitOutside and CameraGearView through which the visibility can be set. In CameraCockpitOutside, all elements can be shown/hidden, with the right side being switched parallel to the left side. In CameraGearView, the right lower wing positions can also be clicked individually.

The approximate positions of the click points are:

IMPORTANT NOTES FOR ALL USERS:
THIS ADDON
- REQUIRES THE F18 IN THE AEROFLY FS 4 VERSION 4.08.01.01 (20251212),
- SHOULD ONLY BE SAVED IN THE USER DIRECTORY AS DESCRIBED ABOVE AND
- MUST BE DELETED IN CASE OF ERRORS OF FUTURE UPDATES.

Hi Michael,

This is a first

Many thanks for this add-on and for finding this much-appreciated solution!

As for me, I tried several different methods by modifying certain names in the tmd.system file, but to no avail; I finally gave up.

Here I end the evening in style.

Quote from Tomfa

... I tried several different methods by modifying certain names in the tmd.system file, but to no avail; I finally gave up....

Hi Pascal,

Which name did you try?

For example:

<[string8][InputTransform][LeftWingFoldRotation.Outputfix]>
<[string8][InputTransform][RightWingFoldRotation.Outputfix]>
or
<[string8][InputTransform][LeftWingFoldRotation.loadfix]>
<[string8][InputTransform][RightWingFoldRotation.loadfix]>

Any sort of word that came to mind to fix these damned AIM-9 Sidewinders

Quote from Tomfa

Hi Michael,

The changelog looks correct, however, something is still causing it to fail?

Unlike Matt's previous version, Options Pack 1 Loadout 1 - 9
See the comparison of the two images.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Hello Tomfa would you kindly send me how did you make canopy to be open in your cold and dark state for F18? Thanks

Hi Wingberry

Regardless of the mode, whether cold and dark, position your mouse as shown in the image, then scroll the wheel backwards to open the canopy, and forwards to close it, that's all.

The mobile version works similarly, of course without a mouse. However, the relevant lever is difficult to locate.

Quote from Tomfa

Hi Wingberry

Regardless of the mode, whether cold and dark, position your mouse as shown in the image, then scroll the wheel backwards to open the canopy, and forwards to close it, that's all.

I already know that but I modified the f18_cold.tmd so when I press cold and dark, the wings are fold automatically, but I don't know how to make canopy open by default, maybe ApfelFlieger would know coding solution 😅

Saved here i the user directory it should work:

• '/.../Aerofly FS 4/aircraft/f18'

Quote from Wingberry

I already know that but I modified the f18_cold.tmd so when I press cold and dark, the wings are fold automatically, but I don't know how to make canopy open by default, maybe ApfelFlieger would know coding solution 😅

Sorry, I misunderstood.

Yes, Master Michael is an expert in all fields.

I tried Wingberry idea for folding the wings in cold and dark mode, and as an example, your files Michael.

But it's not working?

Is there a line or file name error?

Here's the attached file.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Moin Pascal,

I have a guess, but I'm not quite sure:

• CANOPY does not occur in the f18_cold.tmd.
• WING FOLD appears in the f18_cold.tmd.

I assume that the system_cold.tmd can write additional settings to the objects that do not yet occur in the f18_cold.tmd, but cannot overwrite the f18_cold.tmb, because it already overwrites the f18.tmd.

Quote from Wingberry

I already know that but I modified the f18_cold.tmd so when I press cold and dark, the wings are fold automatically,

Hi Wingberry

I've tried other alternatives by renaming it differently, but without success.

Do you have a solution? Thanks!