Two unstable outputs of ROPS-RUNWAY TOO SHORT ?

Shiroko-CA738 · April 11, 2026 at 5:46 AM

Hi everyone, recently I found two outputs related to ROPS-RUNWAY TOO SHORT in A380.tmd, one is RunwayWarningTooShort.Output and the other is RunwayIsTooShortOutput . I used them as inputs for a few sounds, but didn't pay attention to them. Later, when I approached LOWW, I triggered the Runway Too Short warning that I had written before, after RA 400ft. After porting it to my A350 mod, I also triggered the warning. Today, when I tried to trigger it again, there seemed to be no response. My output as a sound input is not stable? Or perhaps for some reason? Here is the screen recording that triggered the alert I added yesterday

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I currently don't have much experience in dynamic object programming, and I hope some masters who are proficient in it can help me take a look

Jet-Pack (IPACS) · April 11, 2026 at 7:56 PM Official Post

Can you please post the code section that you added to the sound and dynamics section of the tmd? (Use the forum code block so that is displays correctly here)

RunwayWarningTooShort.Output is the warning status based on current speed and runway length. RunwayIsTooShort is the state of the runway length check, this turns the runway length on the ND amber of too short way before the landing is attempted.

Shiroko-CA738 · April 14, 2026 at 10:56 AM

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Can you please post the code section that you added to the sound and dynamics section of the tmd? (Use the forum code block so that is displays correctly here)
RunwayWarningTooShort.Output is the warning status based on current speed and runway length. RunwayIsTooShort is the state of the runway length check, this turns the runway length on the ND amber of too short way before the landing is attempted.

I don't know why using this feature makes the code I write become like a staircase (although it seems fine this time, it does look like a staircase at other times), even though it looks normal in my text editor

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            // runway too short
            <[soundinput][RunwayIsTooShort][]
                <[uint32][InputID][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
            >
            <[soundmultiply][RunwayIsTooShortVolume0][]
                <[string8][Input0][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
                <[string8][Input1][1.0]>
            >
            <[soundmultiply][RunwayIsTooShortVolume][]
                <[string8][Input0][RunwayIsTooShortVolume0.Output]>
                <[string8][Input1][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
            >
            <[soundsingle][RunwayTooShortLeft][]
                <[uint32][PositionID]   [Fuselage.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][Fuselage.Q]>
                <[uint32][VelocityID]   [Fuselage.V]>
                <[string8][InputTrigger][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
                <[string8][InputVolume] [RunwayIsTooShortVolume.Output]>
                <[string8][InputPitch]  [1.0]>
                <[string8][SoundFile]   [runway_too_short.wav]>
                <[float64][Threshold][0.9]>
                <[int32][Direction][1]>
                <[tmvector3d][R0][ 33.5514 0.86224 0.15405 ]>
                <[tmvector3d][X0][ -0.93969 0.0 0.34203]>
                <[float64][Radius][1.5]>
                <[float64][Range][3.0]>
                <[bool][External][false]>
            >
            <[soundsingle][RunwayTooShortRight][]
                <[uint32][PositionID]   [Fuselage.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][Fuselage.Q]>
                <[uint32][VelocityID]   [Fuselage.V]>
                <[string8][InputTrigger][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
                <[string8][InputVolume] [RunwayIsTooShortVolume.Output]>
                <[string8][InputPitch]  [1.0]>
                <[string8][SoundFile]   [runway_too_short.wav]>
                <[float64][Threshold][0.9]>
                <[int32][Direction][1]>
                <[tmvector3d][R0][ 33.5514 -0.86224 0.15405 ]>
                <[tmvector3d][X0][ -0.93969 0.0 0.34203]>
                <[float64][Radius][1.5]>
                <[float64][Range][3.0]>
                <[bool][External][false]>
            >

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777Driver · April 14, 2026 at 12:41 PM

Btw, I've been looking through that code since you sent it to me, there are a few errors.

Do the stall and bank sounds work for you? I was planning to work on it tonight, only part that worked on my system was the 80ft altitude callout

b0xsh · April 14, 2026 at 2:32 PM

Quote from 777Driver

Btw, I've been looking through that code since you sent it to me, there are a few errors.
Do the stall and bank sounds work for you? I was planning to work on it tonight, only part that worked on my system was the 80ft altitude callout

Are u talking about the airbuses?

777Driver · April 14, 2026 at 3:23 PM

Just the A350

Shiroko-CA738 · April 14, 2026 at 4:49 PM

Quote from 777Driver

Btw, I've been looking through that code since you sent it to me, there are a few errors.
Do the stall and bank sounds work for you? I was planning to work on it tonight, only part that worked on my system was the 80ft altitude callout

Of course, I tested them on FSG on multiple devices and there were no issues. I also had my friends test it and they could hear the sound（FS4 is also fine, there's no problem）

777Driver · April 14, 2026 at 5:17 PM

Thanks for the info, I'll test without my sound mod active, could be a conflict

Jet-Pack (IPACS) · April 14, 2026 at 5:53 PM Official Post

Quote from Shiroko-CA738

I don't know why using this feature makes the code I write become like a staircase (although it seems fine this time, it does look like a staircase at other times), even though it looks normal in my text editor

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            // runway too short
            <[soundinput][RunwayIsTooShort][]
                <[uint32][InputID][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
            >
            <[soundmultiply][RunwayIsTooShortVolume0][]
                <[string8][Input0][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
                <[string8][Input1][1.0]>
            >
            <[soundmultiply][RunwayIsTooShortVolume][]
                <[string8][Input0][RunwayIsTooShortVolume0.Output]>
                <[string8][Input1][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
            >
            <[soundsingle][RunwayTooShortLeft][]
                <[uint32][PositionID]   [Fuselage.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][Fuselage.Q]>
                <[uint32][VelocityID]   [Fuselage.V]>
                <[string8][InputTrigger][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
                <[string8][InputVolume] [RunwayIsTooShortVolume.Output]>
                <[string8][InputPitch]  [1.0]>
                <[string8][SoundFile]   [runway_too_short.wav]>
                <[float64][Threshold][0.9]>
                <[int32][Direction][1]>
                <[tmvector3d][R0][ 33.5514 0.86224 0.15405 ]>
                <[tmvector3d][X0][ -0.93969 0.0 0.34203]>
                <[float64][Radius][1.5]>
                <[float64][Range][3.0]>
                <[bool][External][false]>
            >
            <[soundsingle][RunwayTooShortRight][]
                <[uint32][PositionID]   [Fuselage.R]>
                <[uint32][OrientationID][Fuselage.Q]>
                <[uint32][VelocityID]   [Fuselage.V]>
                <[string8][InputTrigger][RunwayIsTooShort.Output]>
                <[string8][InputVolume] [RunwayIsTooShortVolume.Output]>
                <[string8][InputPitch]  [1.0]>
                <[string8][SoundFile]   [runway_too_short.wav]>
                <[float64][Threshold][0.9]>
                <[int32][Direction][1]>
                <[tmvector3d][R0][ 33.5514 -0.86224 0.15405 ]>
                <[tmvector3d][X0][ -0.93969 0.0 0.34203]>
                <[float64][Radius][1.5]>
                <[float64][Range][3.0]>
                <[bool][External][false]>
            >

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The RunwayIsTooShort is not useful to trigger the sound. It only indicates that the selected runway for landing is currently too short and changes when BTV runway exit selected or when runway condition changed. So this would just trigger when the ND runway indication at the top of the screen switches from white/green to amber. It does not change on final approach and therefor does not trigger the sound at the right moment.

Instead modify the RunwayWarningTooShort output so that it uses your own logic to trigger the warning sound and then feed that to the sound section to trigger an aural sound. RunwayWarning.OutputRunwayTooShort currently only returns zero and the functionality is not yet implemented.

b0xsh · April 14, 2026 at 11:20 PM

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Just the A350

Quote from Jet-Pack (IPACS)

The RunwayIsTooShort is not useful to trigger the sound. It only indicates that the selected runway for landing is currently too short and changes when BTV runway exit selected or when runway condition changed. So this would just trigger when the ND runway indication at the top of the screen switches from white/green to amber. It does not change on final approach and therefor does not trigger the sound at the right moment.
Instead modify the RunwayWarningTooShort output so that it uses your own logic to trigger the warning sound and then feed that to the sound section to trigger an aural sound. RunwayWarning.OutputRunwayTooShort currently only returns zero and the functionality is not yet implemented.

Apparently row/rop is on your Wishlist is that true?

Shiroko-CA738 · April 15, 2026 at 1:49 AM

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Apparently row/rop is on your Wishlist is that true?

Well, I will continue to learn programming

Two unstable outputs of ROPS-RUNWAY TOO SHORT ?

Shiroko-CA738 April 11, 2026 at 5:46 AM

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