Is there something special about the Q400?

  • I've never really been in to airliners, and mainly stuck to GA other than a few long hauls (USA to Switzerland), so I was juster wondering; has the excitement over the Q400 been just for getting a new aircraft or is there something particular about it?

    Is it loved by pilots, or old and provides nostaglia (I read it began its life in 1994 I believe)? Is it used for specific purposes, mostly commercial or military?

    Regardless I am looking forward to giving it a go.

    • Official Post

    The Q400 somewhat fills the gap between small jet aircraft like the Learjet 45 and larger airliners like the A320. The Q400 has a lot of power (5000 horse power on each engines, total of 10150 hp) compared to its mass (max only 30,000kg) which gives it a large operating range and a lot of headroom and makes it a great work-horse so to say. On approach the Q400 can be as fast as a typical airliners which is nice for scheduling in real life and with its large props it can also do quite steep descents and slow down a lot. With it's maximum flap setting of 35° it can also fly very slow and land on shorter runways.

    Compared to say an A320 it is still very hands on and but the systems are kept quite simple which is allowed due to its short flights.

    The auto-flight system is a bit different compared to the other airliners (but similar to the LJ45) which makes it a nice learning experience. I can for example prepare an ILS on the copilot side while I fly on FMS on my pilot side and then switch the nav-source for the autopilot across and fly the ILS.

    Also the handling of the engines is different, in the end it has turbo-prop engines and no turbo-fans. The turboprops are a lot more efficient in terms of fuel consumption which makes it ideal for short hops. And the turbo-props require a bit more monitoring but allow for more customization. I can for example, set 850RPM (used for cruise) but override the maximum torque value to use the climb power. Or I can leave the RPM at 850 for landing (better for noise and vibrations etc.) and arm the 1020 max RPM for a potential go-around.

    And I think it's this short range design of the Q400 that makes it so attractive to a lot of users. You can land on A LOT of shorter runway in the sim (I managed to put it down anywhere I wanted to so far, even Meigs can be done...). And it has a lot of power to get from A to B quickly or just to fun things. It's versatile and you, as a pilot, are in the loop, tell the aircraft what it should do next.

    "fly heading, now FMS, now VOR, maintain current pitch now, yeah, now power to flight idle get that descent going, RPM 850 and hold that whilst I advance levers to 1020 RPM, now only flap 10 for landing, whew this is quick, keep the power in, nice touch down, now do reverse! BRRRRT aw love that sound, alright now tight turn to the right, yeahaaa, lock the controls, cut engines, ding ding ding - it's ok shhh, DING, yeah yeah I know, quiet now!"

    And of course the fact that you can do a real engines start in the Aerofly now. That gives users a lot more to play with, pretend to have an engine failure and try to counter the large torque of the remaining prop at full power. Plus the Q400 requires some pilot action in the cockpit if you want to do it right. It's just a bit different to an A320 or B737 and that is very refreshing.

    For me the Q400 can be described as "simply a bit more of everything". More aspect ratio, more horse power, longer fuselage, longer landing gear and landing gear is very far apart -> better cross wind landings, more drag if you want to slow down, more power to climb, more things to do in the cockpit, more things to play with the engines, more prop sound, wings are higher on the fuselage, the tail is higher than normal, it's quick, it can be slow and to a tight turn :)

    So yeah, what do you guys think, what excites you most about the Q400?

    • Official Post

    Thanks, well I really love this airplane. I think it turned out great and I enjoy sitting back and just flying with it. It has quite a number of cool features that you don't get from an A320 or a Boeing and that makes it so unique to me.

    Prop management in the Q400 is not very difficult: For takeoff set 1020 RPM. At about 1500ft after takeoff set 900RPM for climb power. When reached cruise level: set 850 RPM. And in the approach phase set 1020 again. The closer you are to the ground the higher your RPM gets. Easy as that.

    You could customize a bit more but you really don't have to. It's totally fine if you fly it like I just wrote.

  • The Dash really looks great and I love how a LOT of buttons actually seem to work! Nice! I think it has more things working than any other AFS2 plane, right? It seems I finally have a plane in AFS2 that is on par with P3D quality addons when it comes to working systems. I also like how it sits in between the Learjet and the airliners. I am looking forward to the tutorial so I can learn how to fly this beauty properly!

  • The Q400 sure has a lot to offer right now. I don't know if it really has the most features, by now we have reached a point where actual real world differences matter. I think the LJ45 and A320 are also quite well advanced, C172 is also very complete but the real one also has not that many features.

    In terms of consequences of your clicks I think the Q400 wins the internal competition.

  • The Q is a beast power wise. Great climb rate and if you are light it really goes uphill nice. Single engine you have to watch your speed to avoid overspeeding it. Landing gear is typical Dash-8... you can get good landings but you should really practice by running a shopping cart (with wobbly wheels) off a 5' ramp. ;)