Interesting technical stuff. But instead of asking for tutorials I only have one other question: can we simple users download all this stuff one day, ready or use? That's all I am interested in, really.
Mine will be shared free when ready! Not much spare time with work but...
autobahn.shp is just an example. You can generate it i.e. with QGIS.
A good article to generate a shp file: google for "Creating Shapefiles in QGIS"
Regards,
Thomas
Ah OK thank you, I was expecting a text file edited by hand with coordinates or somthing alike would do. I tried to use QGIS with no success, seems quite complex and not so user friendly without maybe readding a manual. I was hoping to just create a file with maybe the corner coordinates or something like it. 
yes, we use such polygons to create a kind of corridor for roads and rivers, because database like CORINE have a lot of details but a rather coarse placement, similar to original trees of the Swiss DLC.
Cheers
Antoine
Guys do you mind an example of the polygon mentioned? I guess there is an exampl of this autobahn.shp file that I missed to locate from somewhere?
Thanks in advence.
Where did you get the scenProc script for doing TOC files
It is included in the manual PDF of the soft pack itself, read or flip through and you will find. I think chapter 5.9 or something..,
We will be making a new 2018 plugin shortly, no need to test that further.
this is great news, thanks guys!!!
Hi Luis,
I'll see what we could do. None of us have Max 2018 yet.
I'm curious, have you tried to use the plugin for 3DS Max 2016 to see if it works?
Hello Jeff, I tried only the 2017 one and no go, I can try 2016 and let you know.
Any update on your decals tutorial.
For anyone interested, the 3DS Max tutorial is now completed.
Even though this tutorial is for 3DS Max you can also learn the proper steps from this even if you are using AC3D to build your airport.
I have also uploaded the xref model library separately to the downloads section so that it's easier to find.
Enjoy!
Hello Jeff, this is great thank you!!! Any chance to get a plugin for 3ds Max 2018 version? I asked before in the forum but no answers.
Hello, read your request but can't help, all mine are being done in 3ds Max... Once I am done on my region I will share for free.
Display MoreSalut Luis,
Very nice job indeed, congratulations !
I see you started planting a few trees, probably by hand.
There are some trees in OSM, mostly compact woods (no fences and isolated trees, and seldom trees in cities) usually without much information.
A good alternative source for vegetation is the CORINE database.
Currently there are only 2 kind of trees in AFS2, conifer and broadleaf, but no doubt the library will evolve with multiple species...
Cheers
Antoine
Salut Antoine, merci! Yes you are right I did "plant" some trees and some did not yet come out as I wanted. Been flying closer to the ones out there from OrbX to leran a thing or two and will remake still. My idea is to cover the region here around my home area, Nantes, first and later share to all. I do not know this CORINE database you mentioned but I will try to dig a bit. I did however have trouble working with GGIS, did not manage to undertand how to use the soft so used the osm download as it was, no editing, directly in scenProc and all worked well! Thanks again, let's keep the exchange.
Here are some pics of my work of these last 2 nights so far. A local filed that is home to gliders and ulm's. I used cultivation and own modeling with 3ds max 2017 so far. Thanks to Trenspessers and others for replies on helipng ,e out so far!!!
Would love to have a plugin to work on 3ds max 2018, devs please!! Tried the 2017 one but no go...
Cheers! Luis
Thanks to Trespassers and others here got some good results onmy side with cultivation among other things I am building, love the SIM! Will post some pics of results so far in the development section as suggested instead, Cheers!
Hey me again, forget last post got it working and I see it does create a very large TOC file... guess Antoine's suggestions to split in files makes more sense now.
Thank you!
Hello, me back here again. Followed all I can but the on the final TOC file does it mean that every single tree in the specified location it will need a set of lines in it like this?
<[list_plant][plant_list][]
<[plant][element][0]
<[vector3_float64][position][-1.326695 46.930206 0]>
<[vector2_float32][height_range][8 20]>
<[string8][group][broadleaf]>
<[string8][species][]>
>
If that is so the file will become gigantic.... I guess I miss somthing as maybe there is a way to define a region with NE and SW corners, or?
Rodeo, sorry I know you asked us to slow down but in the middle of our projects for the sim that will be a bit difficult...
Cheers!
Display MoreFirst you need to get OSM data for the zone you want to cover. http://www.geofabrik.de/
If you have a GIS (for instance, QGIS is free and very powerful) you can also directly download a window of data for your desired zone.
Then in ScenProc you follow the steps described in chapter 5.9 of the manual.
Chapter 5.9 is the AFS2 derivative of chapter 5.1 to create autogen from XML OSM data (i.e. with .osm extension).
In case you have shapefile OSM data (.shp) check chapter 5.2 for correct Import syntax. Use QGIS to check your data and identify attributes as described in ScenProc manual
You should use SplitGrid function (cf. chapter 9.2.22) in case you make a large flight zone, typically larger than 1.0x1.0 degree cell, but you should start with a small zone.
Launching the steps (should) create a cultivation.toc file.
Check Rodeo's Airport creation tutorial for the next steps, how to use the cultivation.toc file in AFS2...
Especially you need to create a .tsc file which isn't documented yet.
I picked an existing one and created a phantom airfield to attach my cultivation file. Without the phantom airfield my autogen doesn't show off, I hope the needed structure will be documented soon.
Hope this helps. There are plenty more great functions in ScenProc, just read the manual.
Rodeo started trying out ScenProc, he might consider starting another nice little tutorial of his... who knows.
Cheers
Antoine
Wow that was great and quick reply! appriciate it. Will give it a go, thank you
Display MoreFor those who are interested, it's all there...
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/…cenproc.441173/
One aspect to define is the ideal size and structure of TOC files.
I tested on purpose 1 single TOC file, with approx. 280k buildings, it works, but it's not ideal.
My feeling is we could write separate TOC files for plants, buildings and lights, for easier maintenance.
As well we should split the data into cells, i.e. several TOC of reasonable size to cover a country.
We could think of 1 degree by 1 degree cells, or 30' by 30' cells and name them according to coordinates.
Keep in mind that each TOC must be declared in a TSC file - the structure of which isn't yet very clear to me.
I.e. too many files is a drawback. But too large files with everything inside makes it difficult to locate and remove the group of trees that cross the highway...
Cheers
Antoine
Salut Antoine, any chance you couls make a quick and dirty tutorial on how you made it work with Arno's tool and your results in creating cultivation? Currently I am working in a scenery for the region just south of Nantes in France and this would be great instead of making all the trees and houses in 3ds max... Merci!
Hello all, is anyone using 3ds max version 2018 and does the export tgi plugin for 2017 work?
Thank you in advance!
Luis
CONGRATULATIONS!!! You guys rock, tried to fly with the competition Pxxx v4 this weekend in VR just to be sooo dissapointed again. Would love however if with the release there would be some glider/soaring improvements :-), even if just the thermals to start. THANK YOU!
luis I'm glad i'm not the only one finding the thermals difficult to center. Or find, or when you've found one and you have some wind - the wind will set you off but the thermal seems to stay in place... work to be done.
Agreed, tried a few hours yesterday in a flat region where we fly in France. Found a few but have never been able to center no matter what technique I tried., they must have very very small diameter. With a Oculus Rift you can get very accurate circles as you have the great freedom of view but still no way to center for me, wind at zero, thermals at max... still love the simulator but... I wish they could just on that on a quick fix, can't be that hard to change the diameter parameter somwhere in the code, guess we need to be more patient.
Ridge lift works great
Yep if you set the wind and diretion to the walls work well but still would be great to fly in areas of the world that have no mountains... Thermals... have fun!
