I‘m with you. Compared to the sky coming with Infinite Flight‘s upcoming Update, AeroFly needs a refresh! And please correct sun and moon position due to Date
Posts by CaptainKayce
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Guys guys guys, we’re running in circles here.
Yes, it would be great if AF integrates simbrief.
But why not giving it the chance to create an INHOUSE solution that fits your needs. Tell IPACS What exact you want.
Realistic route planning like real pilots fly (Sorry IPACS, that needs at least an Airac update in some frequence, why, because simmers wanna fly the EXACT route like the real planes, sometimes next to the real world flight)
Step climbs and therefore
real fuel consumption and wheight reduction (IPACS is working on that as we already know)
real weather (at least wind) that suites the specific flight path
An improved menu to set PAX, Fuel, Cargo, Baggage, that suites the routing, aircraft type, and commercial or cargo flight
METAR Datas from airports around the globe, especially departure, arrival and alternate Airport
a somehow way to check these informations within the cockpit without leaving the sim. Like on an virtual ipad left or right from captain/FO
a way to store and recall our favorite flights with actualized routing depending on the actual weather.
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I used to create and design such high quality voicepacks/soundpacks for every airline I used to fly in FS9 years ago, and the tool I used to play these sounds back was my VA's own SmartCars application, that tracked the flight, provided a database to choose flights, a onboard flight planner, a pilot communication chat and also an integrated file-player that played the soundfiles in 7 stages of the flight, to add a nice level of realism.
I still have these sound packs saved somewhere, for 92 different airlines, but I can no longer use them, as no tool exists that does everything that SmartCars used to do. I'll keep the files in case it can be of use in the future, who knows...that’s awesome, mate. Get in touch with iPacs. The app sends flight informations when activated in the settings. Maybe these informations can be gathered by another app except FS Widgets. And therefore can trigger the sounds at certain points. IPACS Support
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Maybe not. but it brings a nice touch. And you could even let the sound of these announcements sound muffled like hearing through a closed door
Or let the communication with ground crew sound like its coming through the radio communication with its characteristic sound -
Hey,
as we talked about the improvements of the navigation system pretty constructively in my opinion, I want to start another request for a really nice improvement of Aerofly.
I know, there have been some threads about integrating Ai ATC. But, as long as AF doesn’t support multiplayer (which would be awesome as a cross platform sim btw.), we should give the defs a much lower bar at the moment.
What about some crew phrases? Like a standard welcome to the passengers and the safety briefing? Therefore you won’t even need real Ai, they could just implement like a few recorded speeches. Something like:
“All doors in Flight. (short break)
Ladies and gentlemen, we’d like to welcome you aboard of this flight. My name is … and I’d like to guide you through the safety instructions now. Please put your seat in an upright position, stow your tables and switch off your mobile devices or set them to airplane mode….” and so on. Something generic that could be used on any commercial flight around the globe. And only in english, to keep it easy. It should be triggered automatically, for example if beacon light is switched on and it should take some time during the engine start and taxiing. At least when turning on the strobes there should be an automated captain voice say “Cabin Crew, please prepare for take off”. Than there should be an announcement when turning on/off seatbelt signs during the flight, when reached cruise level, started the descent, when in short final (cabin crew again) and when landed a last good bye from the crew and when landed and switched off beacon they could say “all doors in parking”. If some of you use Infinite Flight, this may absolutely remind you of the external app “IF Passengers”. And thats simply what I request as an in app support. cause for general usage, you only may need some standard phrases. These could be generated by an Ai Voice and doesn’t really need to be recorded by real humans just in terms of cost and time consumption. I lerned sound engineering and having a few of such sound files doesn’t really need this much storage of a device cause they simply could be like small mp3 files and playing some audio doesn’t really use that much cpu power, so even older devices may easily handle this.
And when using Ai Voices to create these files for usage, you can easily expand that feature fast with speaches fitting to liveries (Ryanair, Lufthansa, Delta …) implementing the captains talk with ground for push and start and may even simply open up the door for the simulation of ATC. But for the entry the usage of on board crew audio would be pretty awesome for now.
What do you think about it? (Especially IPACs)
Greetings
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I believe that they’ve got the message now. And I would be totally fine with the airways support. As a developers point of view I also get the wish to stay in its own box and getting better with the own possibilities instead of opening the own work to other parties.
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I also want to add the fact that, if the static aircraft would make sense according to their proper destination, leaving enough parking spots at the main terminals, i would not be against them. There are however two things to consider here:
- Low quality of the textures compared to the aircract that AeroFly has.
- Wrong airlines at the wrong airports: you’ll see for example a TAM Airlines A320 at Sydney, a Ryanair B738 at San Diego and a Thai Airways B747 at Buenos Aires, Argentina. 😱
If the repaint quality and the modelling of the static aircraft would improve considerably, and they would be parked at their proper airports, (adding more parking spots for us pilots and our airliners) i wouldn’t mind seeing a few static aircraft here and there, but currently it is just too full, too chaotic and too messy.Oh hell yeah. It’s also with the flying ai planes. Spirit or United A320 or B737 landing in Edinburgh… kinda strange. 🥴
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They just added dozens of pushback positions at KLAS gates last month. Do you not have them?
OMG! Didn’t see that. You’re right. Check off KLAS! Thanks for the hint! But this one wrong point still exists. 🤣
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It's less work to just add airways than it is to add airways AND add file import.
So please add airways. Even if the Airac is outdated, having airways may give us a better feeling of planing routes more Professional within the AF Navigation system and without external apps. 🙂
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If I may add my 2 cents on this huge problem, there is really a ton of airports that have this issue in AeroFly FS 4.
Not only are the 'spawn-points' extremely limited on basically any airport because of the unnecessary amount of static aircraft on each of the gates, (ex. EGLL, EGKK, LEMD, EHAM, VHHH, RKSI, etc) but also are these very few 'spawn-points' indeed incorrectly reversed on a lot of parking sports by at least 180º as CaptainKayce mentioned, on top of the matter that as soon as you deviate an inch, or turn the aircraft only 1 degree off the pre-established 'spawn-point', no 'Pre-Engine Start'-state nor 'Cold & Dark'-state can be selected, and the engines are then found to be started, which is very annoying for operational purposes.
I think the first issue (the reversed 'spawn-points') is indeed an issue, but the problem that cascades from this is the low amount of 'spawn-points', linked to the fact that if the pilot would want to spawn on another parking spot, (because the pilot so desires it) he would be forced to start with the engines running, and has no actual way of going back into 'Pre-Engine Start'-state nor 'Cold & Dark'-state, hence another practical solution should be implemented for this huge problem.Yeah, that’s why I want the ability to start cold & dark on any position, as long as the hight is set to ground. I guess that’s the easiest way to achieve an improvement here. 😊
I like the static aircraft cause they give it a bit of life in this single player world, but yeah, I would also prefer more spawn points, e.g. like Infinite flight has almost every gate or parking position available to spawn. I really don’t understand why the scenery development has chosen this less spawn points, especially in famous airports like Las Vegas.
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EDDV, KLAS, EDDB, EDDC, EDDP, EDFH, EPWA
And other Airports simply don’t have spawn points at the gates like EDDS -
If Aerofly FS already plans the route then
1) not more time spent to manually plan route than in external tool
2) planning a long route would not take long
3) import not needed, because waypoints already set, no conflicting databases
4) stopovers could be added or routes could be quickly generated for each leg, so no files needed.
Oh, I see what you mean. We need an Option that can add waypoints between the SIDs and STARs. Would be a beginning. Like a „find path“ Option in the Navigation Menu. It automatically adds waypoints enroute with the actual existing airac. But it needs to follow airways. So it doesn’t simply add any waypoint that’s close to the route.
I really like the menu where I can choose an airport and select a flight in AF. But I don’t like that this flight comes1. With the plane on the runway ready for take off instead of cold and dark
2. With simply no waypoints. Just departure and arrival airports. No real selected SIDs and STARs or routing
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I've moved this into a separate thread.
Can you please give us a list of airports that you found, where this was an issue? Then I can forward that list to our scenery developers.
Oh heck… thats work. I may add them here bit by bit, if its okay. Maybe other pilots can as well.
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oh, one thing I want to mention is, that for flight preparation, please allow to choose “cold and dark” at any point on the ground. For example in EDDV. There is this one Spawn point, and there are a lot like this at airports around the world, where you stand 180° in the wrong direction. There you can choose cold and dark. But if you turn it around manually, you cant choose this. If you turn the plane in the menu at the same spot and enter the flight. The engines are running and the MCDU is all pre set. Thats one point I would really have changed. Simply give us a point in the settings like “if airplane is on ground pre flight, always set it to cold and dark.” A better spawn point therefore to check is at KLAS. I think there is only one spawn point and it is 180° wrong direction.
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Jan, i totally get your point. And you implemented it very well with the AIRAC we have. One thing that you could potentially improve is: adding several waypoints at once. Just writing it in a field like “EDDF WAYP1 WAYP2 WAYP3 EDDB” and when hitting ENTER it fills the whole plan.
I would also love to see a separate slider in the load menu for PAX, Baggage, Cargo.
I mean, where did you get the actual used AIRAC and what was the cost? Wouldn’t there be a chance to like… actualize it at least every two years? Always with some major updates? I mean, I really don’t know the price of this but I simply cannot imagine it costs like several thousands of euro. Proof me wrong, I really have no clue.
But once you updated the AIRAC with all the SIDs and STARs, we can use simbrief for the routing if we want without your implementation. Even the free version of simbrief stays in an outdated AIRAC if you dont pay for Navigraph.
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But why do you want to import the flight plan in the first place?
The only right answer here is realism. Simbrief pays attention to real world flight plans, weather situations, closed airspaces, actualized SIDs and STARs, imports the correct weight and fuel and so on. But this all needs one addition to work properly. At least real wind and temperature simulation. And winds in multiple layers of heights. I hate to say this, but the way Infinite Flight integrates wind and simbrief is just perfect. I switched from IF to AF cause I simply love AFs full cockpit usage and the better graphics and physics. But in terms of weather and simbrief, IF is better. BUT, IPACs, you can just get rid of these questions and be as good as all the other sims
Just implement these features.We know, that this may add costs. Just make a guess. What would an integration of these features make a difference in price for us? 1€ per month per user? 2,99? We will be grateful to pay this. Make it optional for those players who wants to use this. Like Aircraft packs make this an feature we can subscribe to if we want. even if it costs 5,99 per month.
Once this is done, you can think about multiplayer and its resulting costs.

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I miss a special camera position right at the wind shield where you can see the nose of the plane. On PC/Mac you can change the position with special keys. What about bringing this to mobile as well using two or three finger swipe? Would be awesome. 🤩
Sometimes I simply want a bit different position than the regular. Maybe that’s a good way to implement.
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Hey,
I want to start a little discussion/guessing what would be the next aircraft’s and features to come.
Pretty sure, the next two aircraft’s to come are
Airbus A321Neo
Boeing 737-Max 8 (personal favorite)
I really hope sooner than later cause I really like them. 😉
Unfortunately we already have confirmation that Airbus A330 is not planed to find its way into the sim which is kinda sad. The 330-300 and 330-900 Neo are amazing planes.
Regarding to real world, I believe MD11, DC10, 757, 767 will probably never find its way into the sim, unfortunately. Proof me wrong.
747-8 would be an awesome addition in my opinion, but as 747 is no longer produced, I think it will not be added.
I really would love to see Airbus A220 and the Embrear Jets E175 and 195 as well as Cargo Variants or 737 and A320 Families.
I’m not really interested in GA Aircraft’s or fighter Jets. So I don’t have a clue if or what to come.
In terms of features I don’t want to talk about the typical requests like multiplayer, ATC or real weather.I would love to see a better integration of a routing system. Something similar to autoroute from Navigraph. With correct SID and STAR for the route.
But this would maybe need a better wind system with several wind layers through different hights and, yes, an updated AIRAC.
So I somehow need to talk about some of the mentioned topics I wanted to avoid.
Licencing costs may be the biggest issue for devs to break some critical points of AF becoming much more realistic and keep the crown for the best sim. In my opinion, I see the point that only a few percent of users would use some features that result in higher app costs, but have you also paid attention to the possible new players that may switch from other Sims like IF or Xplane on mobile if you simply integrate new features that may result in a monthly cost like 2,99€-5,99€? Additional servers for multiplayer and/or ATC cost money, yes, but if you never try to break these boundaries, you never release the full power that sleeps within AeroFly.
In the end I drifted away, but AF is great and for me the best sim on mobile. Thanks IPACS, for this awesome work and please keep it up and be brave to risk something, for becoming even better.
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Hey,
I want to request 2 new Time Skip requests:1. Please add 2 points to the time skip procedure, where it’s forced to stop skipping.
a) ETP
b) 20nm before T/D - especially on long hauls, time skip actually often skips from e.g. 300nm before destination straight to short final. You can do another time skip if you want to go straight to short final
2. The addition of real winds and clouds could be implemented in the same way, you did with fuel actually! I mean, real weather progress would be awesome but is hard to do. What I’m thinking of is this:If I spawn, real weather of my actual location is loaded and will be the same weather if I fly totally in real time without skipping. But if I fly with time skip, the weather is getting reloaded with the actual weather of the current location, closest airport or destination.
In combination with the additional time skip points you can achieve a bit of real weather simulation when skipping shortly before ETP or T/D
What do you think about that?
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It would be nice, but it is not so important. We are lucky to have a sim with great performance, super stable and great flight model, that we can run in multiple platforms.
Volumetric clouds are not a trivial task and resources expensive.Thats correct! But I would love to see the implementation of a realistic cloud progression while flying and don’t need to adjust it by my own.