I think the confusion mainly comes from how the keys cycle through all views AND switch between categories at the same time. I think a lot of people don't realize that:
1 and 2 cycle back (1) and forth (2) through category 1 (internal views) and BOTH keys can be used to get into that category (when you are in another)
3 and 4 cycle back (3) and forth (4) through category 2 (follow views) and BOTH keys can be used to get into that category (when you are in another)
5 and 6 cycle back (5) and forth (6) though category 3 (external views) and BOTH keys can be used to get into that category (when you are in another)
So people just press a few keys without realizing they are either cycling through one category or changing categories! You can't always clearly see if you cycled to another view or changed a category. So they are in the pilot seat and just press one of those numbered keys and the view changes but... they don't know what they did exactly.There are two things that makes all this even more confusing:
1. Category 1, internal views, also contains external views, though fixed on the plane! Confusing. So it is easy to lose track of what you are doing and where you are.
2. The view last used in a category is remembered after switching to another category
3. Switching to another category can be done by pressing either of the two assigned keys: only after pressing one of those keys again you will start to cycle. Due to this it seems the numbers keys have a different function everytime. You would expect key 1 to always show you the pilot view but that isn't the case.Example: you are in the pilot seat and you press 2: you will switch to the co-pilot seat (still in the same category). Then you press 3: you have switched to the follow category but you may not know that, also because category 1 also has external views. Now you want to go back to the pilot seat: you would THINK you'd have to press key 1 and you'd be there so you press 1... Odd, now you are in the co-pilot seat again! So you press 2 to go to the pilot view because you have no clue and you get yet another view...! You press 1 again, still no pilot view, so you try 3 (change of category) or 5 (yet another category) and the confusion is complete.
What you had to do was this: you are in the pilot seat and you press 2: you will switch to the co-pilot seat. Then you press 3: you have switched to the follow category. How to get back to the pilot view? FIRST press either 1 or 2 (it doesn't matter which you pick because both will get you back in the internal category): now you are back in the internal category but still in the copilot seat (because the system remembers the last used view in every category). Since you are in the copilot seat, which is the 2nd view of the category (remember you pressed 2 in the beginning) you now have to press 1 to cycle back to the pilot view.
The ADVANTAGE of this system is that the last view used in any category is remembered during a session. So if you like the pilot view in category 1, the in front of the plane view in category 2 and the tower view in category 3, then at the start of the flight, when you are in the pilot seat, press 3 (or 4) to go to category 2 and then press 3 (or 4) until you have the view you want (in front of the plane): leave it at that. Then press 5 (or 6) to go to category 3 and then press 5 (or 6) to until you have the view you want (tower). From now on you can switch between your three prefered views by simply pressing 1, 3 and 5 which will have you moving from category to category. Just make sure to not press a key that belongs to the same category or you will be cycling views again.
LOL I suppose this sounds very complicated but once you get it, it's really quite simple...
I read some people would like to just have the pilot seat view and the external view that you can move. In that case you don't have to setup anything. When you are in the pilot seat, press 5: this will bring you to the external view and the first one in that category will be the moveable view. To get back to the pilot seat press 1 again. So by pressing only 1 and 5 you can switch between both views (both categories) easily! Just remember that AFTER pressing 1 or 5 you should NOT press that same number again or you will be cycling once more!
The confusing part again here is that you could also press 6 2 5 1 6 1 5 2 5 1 6 2 and still you'd only be switching these TWO views... because both cycle keys of any category can be used to switch categories... This is why a lot of people don't understand the system because the keys seem to be doing something different every time. But again, as I said, it's really very simple once you get it.
Thank you can I use the keyboard in Rift" on the controllers I can go left or right up or down. So I would left for my side view and then right to get make in the right seat? If you are not sure what I mean take a look at the VR section in the WIKI. Also can I tell my boss that you said I can stay home it is a nice day for flying
Posts by Dholm
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Is Ultrawings worth it? Much content for the money?
I do not like it at all. You have to do task ( fly threw targets with step angle of attack up or down. shoot at balloons and take photos ) in order to land at other airports. You start with one plane then there is a glider I can not lean to fly so I only can fly too three airports and two planes. I have a lot more freedom with FS
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I'm in VR so I do not think I could set up any buttons. My categories would be inside ( left and right seats outside near under. over left side right side and under behind and under. far view.) I would love just for now to go from right seat to side view and back to right seat with out getting lost. I'm still learning all about the software one area at a time. Might put this on hold and learn how to us the AP system.
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Would someone be kind and make a chart of some sort. It take me three or 4 tries to see a side view of my plane and when I want to sit in the pilots set all manage to do is be in the back. I know that a set # of views it linked to a category. That is where I get lost. Even a list of what view is under what category and how to tell the different categorys would help.
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Will I be able use it in VR?
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Is anyone using them? I'm thinking about it but not sure. I do love the moving map in my c172. So far that is the only one I have flown that has it.
what are your pros and cons?
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For parts falling off try the sopwith camel. The engine sounds like it will fall off any second. Love the sound do not know how they took to the air with an engine sounding the way it did.
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I took off from Truckee and flew out to the Valleys (stead airport) to look around nothing change. I love Monterey so I started their. Everything was fine. I do not think I was too close because we use the Mustang departure a lot.
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Maybe not the best place to ask this but I would be happy with a white over blue United 737 or the 747.
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It sounds like you did what I did Maybe I should try a different airport with the same plane. The to/from did not change and the needle did not more. Since the miles on the radio worked i had the right radio set and the other gages had power so my switches was set. It has been years since I had been in a cockpit so It is like learning all over again. I love to fly out of Truckee maybe I use it this time.
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Take a look at The world Clock World Clock. There is a section where you can make a list of cities that show local time. Comes in handy because I love night flying.
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Does the vor work in the 172. I set up the frq to Mustang freq. 117.9 ant the obs to radial 234. I left RNO and turned E. (you can see it from US 80) I went out about 5 miles The needle nevered moved and to/from never changed from off.
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I looked at the ORBX. What abbreviation do they use for fs2? I want to know what works and does not before I buy anything.
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Thanks It did work that time.
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I have two DLC's from steam. Both were downloaded from steam but steam tells me there not installed. Wiki tells me what is available but not how to install them. How do I install them and I can use them in VR?
Also I did not find a request topic. I have a plane tat I would like painted and I can not even draw a strait line where can I post my request?
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I love these photos. Anyone know if you can take photos in VR using the Oculus Rift?
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What VR system are you using?
You can control the throttle by pressing up/down on the left analog stick/pad.
For instructions on how to use the motion controllers please have a look at our wiki HERE
I use the Oculus. I will try again in a few days How do I change views (not in school) and can I change views in the air?
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What are torches?
We tested flight school fully and found no problems with how the motion controllers work within flight school. I'm also not too sure what you mean by the 'back button' as there is no back button on the motion controllers.
I'm not writing any of this off but please explain your problem a little bit better.
The motion controllers. (Torches) Sorry for the mix up. The only button that works is the "B". In lesson 4 she asked me to power up. I can not. Nor could I power down. I exited the the flight school to try a few things. Not sure how I had a 172 I went to airplane taped on the 172 went to location and found my self in the air. I think that is what I did. Just like in flight school I was behind the plane. Tried to change my view (I thought you could when flying maybe not.) I can turn increase or decrease my altitude. but I could not increase or decrease power.
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I own a Rift My problem is my torches do not work. In flight school I can move and see the rudder and flaps but no throttle. In or out of school (I was able to get in to the 172 ones and did see my hands because I wanted to take a look around the inside of the 172. ) I went into flight school and that is when the problems started. I can still move into different areas and look around a little. I Only the back button will work. If I go into setting under the controller setting at the bottom it tells me to plug in my joystick. I do not own one If you look at my tm.log (remaned for upload purposes) it states no devices found I have not change any of the default settings. tm.txt. Everything else looks and sounds great.
