Hi,
The plane stalls flat. May be too centered forward ?
I think that alone is not enough. That plane should fall out of the sky and crash. This is no Carf Eurosport with Vektorunit. It is a F-16.
The fact that I have full rudder controll while having the nose pointed right up says a lot too. How do those rudders work without any air going over the surface? This works with a 3D prop plane because of prop wash but definatly NOT on a jet without vector nossle.
Yet again I gave Aeroflight a chance and bought the update to RC9.
I could go on and on about non existant flight physics and non existant stall characteristics but I'll present you this video of the 15kg heavy F-16 turbine jet instead.
No go ahead and tell me that this is right....
Sorry, not my speciality.
I just know that a delta can be landed nose up at a crawl.
There's no magic to deltas. As they get heavier, they get faster. Yes you can go high alpha and land slow but not as extreme like this and what makes things worse: You don't even have to fly it high alpha to get it crawl in RC8.
Mine lands faster than this and the nose is that far up that I actually have to add down elevator so the wheels make contact before the tail woth my real model. The mirage in RC8 has wings filled with helium.
Beside the problem that I do not find any MB 339 I tried the Mirage 2000.
She easily reaches 200 kmh in horizontal flight. All but slow for a 1.55 meter model.
So your problem seems to be the VR or any other component.
Said Mirage is an as good example as any. Does it feel right to you? Top speed is irrelevant. Try land it at slow speed! You can land it at crawling speed. A heavy turbine Mirage!
I got a 2.7kg light 90mm EDF Mirage 2000 and while it can land slow flying high alpha it can never fly as slow as the heavy big one on RC8. If flying would just be as easy as in this sim, I'd never need to repair a model.
Display MoreWe have several PC-6 models in our club. In various sizes.
In addition I can watch the pattern from the military airfield very often out of the kitchen. (Swiss Air Force)
My humble opinion:
The RC8 model comes very close to a real model in this size.
Compared to bigger models and to the real thing it seems to be a bit to agile and to fast.
Sorry, IMHO
I guess we agree to disagree then. Our main towing plane in the club is this PC-6 and yes the swiss v ersion flies over the field too. Maybe it is because I play in VR and something is off for that reason but I have yet to see it land at walking speed unless there is a lot of wind.
Did you try the MB 339. If that is how a heavy turbine jet lands I have to sell my EDF versions having half the weight and buy a heavy turbine version so I can land it like a piper.
If this is deemed correct I guess I wasted my money. 
I managed to get the PC-6 to a point where it feels better by reducing wingspan and adding a lot of weight. In my opinion the models should fly as close as possible to the real thing by default though. It is a simulator after all!
You don't learn flying with training on hot airballons looking like a plane.
Both. Pease do test the turbine MB 339. It is the most extreme model I found. Flies like a 1.5kg 2m foam piper cub.
Am I the only one thinking the 1:1 simulation speed is completely off?
When flying the big MB 339 for example: A turbine jet that can be flown at walking speed? Landing like a trainer? I don't think so.
The Pilatus PC-6 can me made so slow with flaps that it basically stands in the air.
I got planes of all sorts, jets high deckers, rather big 3D machines but none of them can made to crawl like in RC8.
It is supposed to be a sim to learn stuff but if you try to apply that to the real world it would lead to a stall and crash in 100% of the cases.
Yes I changed simulation speed to 1.3 for now but why do I have to (and it is still off because the planes are too fast then - just landing speed seems a bit better).
I play in VR btw - but that shouldn't really matter.
Helis feel a bit better btw. They all come with 10kilowatt motors but other than that they are usable.
Kommt auf den Heli an. Beim T-rex 700X mit dem großen Motor kannst du knüppeln, bis der Arzt kommt bzw der Lipo stirbt. Die Drehzahl bricht nicht ein, selbst wenn ich grobmotorische TicTocs mit übelstem Timing mache. 
Pimax brought out a new beta software today that fixed it.
Now the good stuff: This is definatly the best RC Sim VR experience I had so far.
Aerofly RC8 + Pimax 5K+ is a real winner.
I am so very sorry Thoemse! I did not realize I was responding to the RC8 forum..
No worries. Maybe they get it fixed. It should be a minor thing, I just hope they are willing to look into it. This is the very first VR game that does not work with this headset. The main problem is that it is not on steam. That being sait neXt sim works perfectly fine with it in VR without being on steam (but with SteamVR).
Yes the headset will work, even without the base tracking sensors but I highly recommend you have them.
Here is an earlier discussion thread about the Pimax 5k plus - is this the next step for VR flightsim?
You will find on page 2 my opinions and others about the headset with Aerofly FS2. Some like it, some not so much.
Sadly that information was wrong. It might work for FS2 but not for RC8.
200 € wasted.
The Pimax 5K+ is a SteamVr Headset so I thought this should work.
Apparently the game does not hook though. Steam VR tries to start the game but it doesn't actually work and only shows a splitscreen on the monitor. Positional tracking works though.
I am trying with the regular launch options -othervr.
Any workarounds for this?
I'll have to try get my money back otherwise. The sim is worthless to me to use it flat.
Fantastic news! Pimax released a new beta PiTool and added a Vive only mode for just these reasons. It works now! Wide FOV high res VR flying - fantastic!
Thank you. I got base stations. I just was not sure if the game engine works with the wide FOV.
Any Pimax 5K+ users? I am considering buying it but since it is not on Steam I got no option to return it if it wont work with my 5K+.
