I have HP Reverb and Pimax 5K+/8K/8K+. When tuned at roughly the same FPS, Reverb has some jitter while Pimax has not. I have discussed this with Sweviver, and he observe the same but don't know why.
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Is it possible to save the record, and play it on other computers?
Oh that will be great fun to watch and learn others!
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One HP guy told me they have solved the flickering issue and the latest batch is free of this problem. This has been confirmed by recent Reddit user report.
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Can you comment on the FOV of Reverb compared with the Samsung odyssey?
Odyssey has slightly bigger FOV, but the difference is negligible.
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I have Index, Reverb, Pimax 5K+ and almost all the other major headsets. Reverb is definitely of the highest perceived resolution among all, but it has critical flaw of flickering now and then, so we should wait for HP for the revised edition. Immediately following Reverb are Index and 5K+, which are both of higher perceived resolution than Samsung Odyssey. 5K+ and Index are of nearly the same perceived resolution. Of course 5K+ has much bigger FOV, but Index looks "cleaner" and more "in focus" than 5K+, so the view of Index is definitely more pleasant than 5K+. Also Index is more comfortable to wear than 5K+ with Deluxe Audio mod. The FOV of Index is noticeably bigger than Oculus, Vive, and all the Windows MR headsets.
With the above observation, my choice of headset for flight sim and other apps is Valve Index. I'd suggest just buy the headset alone, as the Index controller has the "click" problem, and it would be sensible to wait for the revised edition.
If you have patience, you can also wait for the revised Reverb, but I am pessimistic about their efficiency.
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Any helicopters there?
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We desperately need a helicopter that can fly in the Everest area.
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I really like this guys channel, he reviews VR for mostly flight sims. Looks like some people are having issues with screen cutting in and out.
"Might be the reason HP is not currently in stock? Trying to fix the issue?"
It's so sad to see so many people reported the same issue in the comments. Only one said he had none.
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Display MoreIt’s excellent. Pretty much edge to edge is clear. The lensing rocks. One thing, though, is instead of fixed god rays, you can get very light ghosts that move across your field of view depending on the scene. But in flight sims in daylight, not even noticeable for me. But just about everything you see is clear and in focus. It’s a big improvement over Vive/Pro. And it makes a difference. You can just glance at things instead of having to turn your head. And the combination of RGB LCD makes screen door much reduced (can still see it if I look for it) and instead of needing two pixels to make a white pixel (green/blue plus a green/red), a single pixel can make white. That makes text on dials and gauges much more clear since it’s almost always white. Invasion stripes, clouds, and text now look so much better.
Phil - on the plus side, if you are only doing seated, you only need a single base station and can just put it in front of you. As a bonus you also get seated/standing facing the general direction of the base station. Still, it’s $150, but you really only need one.
There’s apparently an issue with being able to press-click the joystick on the controllers but you don’t have to get those right away.
After trying it, I have to say Index is the hot setup for flying and driving. Anywhere you can have fast relative motions. The 60/120 Hz display rate is so much nicer than 45/90. It’s a 33% increase for me and it’s just so fluid. And sharp. There is another thing happening with the backlight - it’s flashing very fast. Much faster than OLEDs in Vive/Pro flash. And that really tightens up the display. You don’t get blurring in a frame due to head movement. It’s more like how you see things in real life.
The face gasket seems more for those with narrow faces and wide-faced people are asking for a different gasket. There’s the Index controller joystick button thing. And black levels are more gray since it’s an LCD. Those who want to hunt zombies in near total darkness might not like Index.
But for my uses it is hands down better than Vive Pro. My wife now gets that one for Audio Shield since that is quite dark. She might prefer Index, though, since there is so much movement.
That sounds very tempting. Pity there is none in stock.
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How is the clarity compared with other headsets you have used?
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No cockpit on HP Reverb WMR headset. Everything is fine except there is no cockpit and it starts 20 meters above the runway. Does any other Windows MR user experience this?
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Everything is fine except there is no cockpit and it starts 20 meters above the runway. Does any other Windows MR user experience this?
Oh it's not just Lukla, but no cockpit in any scenery on Reverb. Could any other WMR user verify this?
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Bought it. It’s great. Only pity is low resolution of the ground texture on most places. Wish high resolution upgrade in the future.
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Thanks for the link. I added a separtely powered PCI Express USB 3.0 card. It improves the situation, but the flickering still appears after an hour.
And others have also reported similar cases even with a powered USB hub.
I have requested a RMA, and I will see if a replacement can solved the problem.
I really want this headset. I have never seen such clarity. It's really HD monitor class.
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Any specifications of Cosmos? I haven't been able to find any.
I was so close to ordering the Reverb, then the Cosmos bomb dropped, could be the one to replace my Vive Pro.
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I got a Reverb. The clarity is amazing, noticeably better than 5K+. Text is smooth and readable on Windows desktop. On 5K+ it’s readable but not smooth by comparison. Cons: the FOV is about the same as Oculus OG, and the black border (edge of screen) is easier to be seen on on Reverb if you move your head. If wearing glasses all the edges can be seen at all time, and it’s very immersion breaking. The reason why Reverb has such great clarity is because with their optical design all the pixels are used, but that leaves a negative side: the ugly border. Now with this we have more understanding about Pimax’s design philosophy, which is the opposite of HP: It wastes some of the pixels for us not to see the border! Beside Reverb and 5K+ there might be better design, but that might be more expensive. Or maybe we can have something between?
Now there are more serious problems of Reverb: compared with 5K+ it’s uncomfortable. It has no IPD adjustment. I had a very hard time set it up as the controllers cannot be found as the bluetooth device. I have to borrow an external bluetooth dongle which worked on another people’s computer.
The most dreaded problem, is the flickering of one screen after 5 minutes or so. The problem is widely reported on Reddit, and no definite solution has been found yet. Compared with the hardware problems of Reverb, 5K+/8K are like breeze.
I will still keep the Reverb. The clarity is just…wow! It’s hard to get back, even with the small FOV, black border, and constant flickering. After my experience with Reverb, what I want to say to Pimax: clarity is really more important than FOV. 150 degree is quite enough, maybe even 130 degree.
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I will have my Reverb tomorrow, and I will compare it to 5K+, which should be the only competitors for now.
I am pretty sure Reverb will tramp 5K+ in clarity.
At the end of this year Pimax 8KX will be out and it should be THE headset for flight sim.
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5 more sceneries of this quality, and Aerofly FS2 would be big, big, big!
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By the way. I haven't followed GeoConvert for quite a while. What's its status now? Have the problems of white blocks and black borders been resolved now? I'd really like to start making ortho sceneries, with so many cultivations coming.
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Great work! Thank you so much Michael.
