HK - VHHH(ex) KAI TAK AIRPORT online

Tomfa · January 10, 2024 at 11:46 PM

Thank you very much ApfelFlieger for this wonderful work in Hong Kong! It's fantastic to be back there.

However, two little things that are a little annoying are the landings galore, we have almost no room for maneuver, they stick to our butts, and regarding the speed limit, in my opinion, they drank too much sake

I remember that on FS2, Colin brunnobellic had explained that we could reduce in a file by one or two units concerning the speed on the highway in Insbruck for example, but I don't know exactly anymore, which file and which line?

ApfelFlieger · January 11, 2024 at 8:32 AM

Moin Pascal,

thank you for liking it. 😁

Let's see if I can control the speed on the streets with the helicopter 🚗🚓🚁. The sailboats are also traveling a little too fast for me.

I will later publish the setting options with which both the circulation frequencies and the circulation speeds can be adjusted.

Tschüss, Michael

ApfelFlieger · January 11, 2024 at 11:34 PM

The animations in Hong Kong are now better adjusted:

Carousel:
- The carousel rotates at 6 rpm - no one gets sick.
Sailboats:
- The four sailboats sail at ~8 or ~10 kt -- depending on the local wind.
Hong Kong Ferries:
- The well-known ferries now run at ~10 kt - enough time to relax..
Container Ship:
- The container ship is also only allowed to travel at 10 kt when traveling in the area.
Cars:
- In the city the speed is now ~55 km/h (kph) / ~35 mph.
- The speed on the highway is now 93 km/h (kph) / ~58 mph.

The animated air traffic is also adapted:

The flight speed is now only 150 kt, the minimum for the five aircrafts.
This roughly results in these time windows for takeoffs and landings:
- 00:00 - 00:30
- 00:30 - 00:50 landing Concorde
- 00:50 - 01:30
- 01:30 - 01:50 landing aircraft
- 01:50 - 03:30
- 03:30 - 03:50 landing aircraft
- 03:50 - 09:10
- 09:10 - 09:30 landing B747
- 09:30 - 10:30
- 10:30 - 10:50 landing aircraft

I'm attaching the two corrected files for those of us who are more experienced to test.

If it fits, I will adjust the overall packages tomorrow.

Qantas 10 · January 12, 2024 at 12:55 AM

Works a treat, I especially like the moving car traffic, it really gives a sense of immersion. Is there anyway to add SID's / STAR's etc so we can navigate to/from Kai Tak or is this imbedded in the AFS4 core navigation files?

Tomfa · January 12, 2024 at 1:32 AM

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The animations in Hong Kong are now better adjusted:

Many thanks Michael, everything is perfect, and the community in Hong Kong has become more disciplined

Except at certain times, towards Victoria Bay, surveillance of a sailboat was required.

The detailed table is really appreciated.

ApfelFlieger · January 12, 2024 at 2:14 PM

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...Is there anyway to add SID's / STAR's etc so we can navigate to/from Kai Tak or is this imbedded in the AFS4 core navigation files?

At this point I'm still not sure how to solve this.

- I can imagine that Jet-Pack (IPACS) can help here?
- Maybe a mission would also be helpful?
- And I want to see whether a fictitious runway as an extension of the checkerboard is helpful as an approach aid.

And I'm also missing the approach lighting RW13 in the curve, so maybe I can use some navigation signals there.

ApfelFlieger · January 12, 2024 at 2:35 PM

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And I'm also missing the approach lighting RW13 in the curve, so maybe I can use some navigation signals there.

The first test shows: This should work.😆

Max.M · January 19, 2024 at 12:45 PM

Great mod! But when I do the flight plan the airport was shown as a waypoint thus I cant select any approaches, any clue why?

ApfelFlieger · January 19, 2024 at 2:29 PM

The reason is relatively simple:
In the original, VHHH KAI TAK INTL AIRPORT was decommissioned in 1998 and VHHH CHEK LAP KOK AIRPORT was put into operation instead.
In the simulation, IPACS therefore also saved the correct data from today under VHHH.

In contrast to reality, IPACS would now have to record the data from KAI TAK AIRPORT under a different ICAO code such as VHHX. The highlight would be if the IGS were programmed for RW13 instead of ILS. In my opinion, it would be enough to set up a fictitious ILS on the CheckerBoard.

However, I understand if IPACS does not want to make this effort at the moment because other points are more important.

I'm currently successfully working on at least supporting the approach with an optical light guide like the one in reality.

Max.M · January 19, 2024 at 2:34 PM

Quote from ApfelFlieger

The reason is relatively simple:
In the original, VHHH KAI TAK INTL AIRPORT was decommissioned in 1998 and VHHH CHEK LAP KOK AIRPORT was put into operation instead.
In the simulation, IPACS therefore also saved the correct data from today under VHHH.
In contrast to reality, IPACS would now have to record the data from KAI TAK AIRPORT under a different ICAO code such as VHHX. The highlight would be if the IGS were programmed for RW13 instead of ILS. In my opinion, it would be enough to set up a fictitious ILS on the CheckerBoard.
However, I understand if IPACS does not want to make this effort at the moment because other points are more important.
I'm currently successfully working on at least supporting the approach with an optical light guide like the one in reality.

I understand now, thanks. It will certainly be great to have a proper Kai Tak airport in the sim. Thank you for your mod, it is really fun to do the approaches!

ZGORACING · January 24, 2024 at 9:51 AM

Hey there, how do I manually add a building into Hong Kong (I can't link to global)

ApfelFlieger · January 24, 2024 at 10:51 AM

Non-standard buildings are stored in the "poi" directory in FS 4, as is the case with "toulouse_city", for example:

But I haven't yet looked into how this works for us users.

So far I have inserted buildings from FS 2 as part of airport files.

ZGORACING · January 24, 2024 at 11:27 AM

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Non-standard buildings are stored in the "poi" directory in FS 4, as is the case with "toulouse_city", for example:

But I haven't yet looked into how this works for us users.
So far I have inserted buildings from FS 2 as part of airport files.

thanks

ZGORACING · January 24, 2024 at 11:33 AM

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Non-standard buildings are stored in the "poi" directory in FS 4, as is the case with "toulouse_city", for example:

But I haven't yet looked into how this works for us users.
So far I have inserted buildings from FS 2 as part of airport files.

Do I need to change the name when I join a building？ (I can't use it after pouring it directly)

ApfelFlieger · January 29, 2024 at 9:14 PM

I have uploaded a new version of VHHH(ex) KAI TAK INTL AIRPORT:

https://flight-sim.org/filebase/index…ion-2024-01-29/

This contains the tower beacon light as well as the approach lighting of the RW13 located in the curve.

ApfelFlieger · January 29, 2024 at 9:22 PM

I have also uploaded a new version of Hong Kong-AddOn:

https://flight-sim.org/filebase/index…ion-2024-01-29/

The EDITION 2024-01-09 unfortunately led to many error entries in the tm.log file. The revised EDITION 2024-01-09 only has 2 errors caused by the building "city_intl_trade_exhibition_centre"; the 3D container ships in the harbor were left out and the harbor cranes were converted to XREF (and their number was almost doubled).

ApfelFlieger · January 29, 2024 at 9:31 PM

And last but not least, I uploaded 1 airport and 26 heliports for Hong Kong:

https://flight-sim.org/filebase/index…ion-2024-01-29/

Tomfa · January 29, 2024 at 10:27 PM

The integration of heliports and traffic is great, thanks Michael! Too bad the ground in this city is completely shattered.

ApfelFlieger · January 29, 2024 at 10:50 PM

Perhaps an expert in elevation mesh can help better map the topography of Hong Kong.

Tomfa · January 29, 2024 at 11:50 PM

There is a very good expert on the subject, TomSimMuc

Thomas, please, your help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

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