Bombardier Dash 8Q-400

Jet-Pack (IPACS) · October 13, 2016 at 7:36 AM Official Post

Hi bbrz,

I corrected my initial statement BTW... what I wanted to say is that the Q400 flies like a turboprop airplane - stop. In terms of physics there is nothing that makes the Q400 different to other aircraft, it has the same laws of physics that apply, it just has few different parameters (characteristics), that is what I ment with that original sentence. I did not want to draw a comparison to 'any other airplane' actually that's why I edited the text. The Inertia of the Q400 is of coarse different to other aircraft in the sim because of its large wing mounted gear and engines and because of the different wing geometry it inheritly flies different to any of our other airplanes in the sim. I've tried to make it fly realistically, tried to get closer to the numbers that I saw in videos. It handles quite well and makes a lot of fun to fly. Flap 30 is like stepping on the brakes, you can really make very short landings with this setting. Normally you'd only use flap 15 for landing, thats what we set as default landing config.

Cheers,
Jan

105OE · October 13, 2016 at 9:11 AM

Now THAT sounds promising! Guess I'll be a first day customer then

Overloaded · October 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM

I hope that there will be many enthusiastic buyers.
I was not aware of paid volunteer beta programs. In Aerofly mobile many beta users were sometimes left with a seriously dysfunctional version for a significant length of time. We were unpaid and gladly put up with the inconvenience as it contributed towards fixing or improving the sim'.
The sophistication of the PC version must reflect an enormous amount of labour and continuing development must incur significant further expense. I would be happier to help finance the survival of the project and not doing so might result in a stalled effort as frustrating and disappointing as the stagnation, of the not yet mature AF 2 mobile version.
This unique simulation project which is dedicated to authentic flight feel and which embraces continuing improvement and constructive interaction with it's users is a special proposition, it must not vanish from the market.

donka · October 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM

@Jet-Pak
You seem to be the most responsive of the developers and given that the Dash will be coming for mobile too, do you have a rough ETA of the next mobile release?

IPACS Support · October 13, 2016 at 1:22 PM

We are not aware of any paid volunteer beta programs ourself?! Here seems to be some kind of misinformation.

Wrog · October 14, 2016 at 5:23 PM

@bbrz
I flew the Embraer 145 regional jet which seats 50 (same as Dash 8-300) and has gross weight of about 50,000 lbs, a little more than the -300 at 43,000 lbs. The main reason I prefer the Dash is because it can do things jets can't. For example, we could hold 180 kts to a five mile final to fit in with jet traffic, then slow to ref speed and land and stop in about 1200 feet. Also ATC would give us clearances to us that they wouldn't give to jets like the ILS 15R circle to land 4L at KBOS or the Anacostia River Visual 33 at KDCA. Can't speak to Boeing and Airbus, but I have been on the Jumpseat plenty of times. I saw a lot of jet pilots that were overly dependent on automation.

105OE · October 14, 2016 at 7:27 PM

That's a really interesting POV considering that with a jet that you are most of the time above the weather while with any Dash you are right in the middle of the worst weather and icing.
Speaking of icing, no way I'd exchange heated leading edges for inflating boots!
180kts at 5NM isn't exactly fast and 1200ft? R U sure? Even the DHC-6 has a landing distance of 2000ft.
Don't know how you got the impression that 'a lot' of jet pilots are overly dependent on automation and this has 100% nothing to do with the difference between props and jets.

Wrog · October 15, 2016 at 12:36 AM

Just personal preference. Automation dependence is a very real issue in the industry, and I've observed it countless times on jumpseats on both major and regional carriers in the U.S.

105OE · October 15, 2016 at 5:17 AM

Of course automation dependence is a real issue, but that's nothing new and hasn't anythin to do with the difference between props and jets.
If you are flying 4-8 legs each day, with only minimum rest in between, you simply HAVE to rely heavily on automation.
It's the combination of fatique and automation dependence that makes flying presently so dangerous!

105OE · November 21, 2016 at 5:00 AM

As the Q400 is still WIP, is IPACS planning to change the Austrian livery of the Q400?
The one in the screenshots is the old one and it's being phased out already since quite some time now.
https://www.google.at/search?q=dash+8+400+austrian+airlines&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFxc-p-rjQAhXBnRoKHXHrB_4Q_AUICCgB&biw=1920&bih=930#imgrc=yLZrkdDtSME6CM%3A

Mr. Bean · November 21, 2016 at 4:10 PM

Thanks a lot bbrz...

I saw a new post in this thread and thought there was new information from the dev's, pics, video, release announcement... alas 'twas you asking about paint...

Patience mode re engaged.

Cheers

donka · November 21, 2016 at 4:45 PM

This must be one of the most anticipated aircraft, I guess because it is something a little different. Looking forward to it when it is released.

HiFlyer · November 21, 2016 at 4:53 PM

I like cookies! :o

J van E · January 18, 2017 at 4:23 PM

Getting close, so I've heard...?

Jetjockey10 · January 18, 2017 at 8:24 PM

Just how close have you heard?

J van E · January 18, 2017 at 8:59 PM

Quote from Jetjockey10

Just how close have you heard?

On the Steam forum: "It's being finalized. Shouldn't be too much longer."

Mr. Bean · January 24, 2017 at 6:06 PM

I read recently it is getting close. "It's being finalized. Shouldn't be too much longer." ...can't remember where I read that.

Seriously though, any chance of a couple more screen shots?

Patience mode re-engaged.

Overloaded · January 24, 2017 at 11:59 PM

Check the mobile section sometime. Quote :-

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We have delayed the airplane for now as we are not satisfied yet with the engine physics and the sound. So please give us more time.

Mr. Bean · June 6, 2017 at 2:07 AM

I read that "It's being finalized".

Deserved a bump so people can see the awesome pics at the top of this thread.

edpatino · June 6, 2017 at 3:03 AM

Excellent news!. Another aircraft to the fleet!.
AF2 is just getting better, and with the upcoming scenery from ORBX, even more!.
Thanks, Ed