Tecnam P2008 project

    I am very well known (to put it nicely) for my honest comments 8o and so some may be glad (and relieved) to hear I think this Tecnam P2008 is one great little add on! ;) Job very well done! It's not the kind of plane I will be flying often (I like a plane that keeps me busy like the Q400) but it's a very nice plane to have in the hangar to for instance check out some new scenery (if ever...). 8) Congrats with this release!

    Quote from ludekpokorny

    Hi to all !

    Please ... does the P2008 turn the wheel-chassis? me does not respond and the rudder reacts little to the runway. Thanks in advance for the advice. I wish you all a Happy Holidays.

    Same, I believe it is a bug. At startup the plane can turn with rudder pedals, later upon landing, the function is disabled. The only way to turn is to press the left or right brake. I'm in beta.

    Hello Sylvain,

    When I steer the aircraft on the ground with the foot pedals, i.e. with the foot brakes, these changes in direction are very extreme. Is there a way to reduce this extreme steering movement with an entry in a certain file (.tmc).

    I have already reduced the axis of my pedals (Saitek) to the minimum, but when I brake very little the plane reacts too extreme!

    The plane is your Tecnam P2008

    Merci also for the great aviator, I especially love the nearby large nav screen

    Froher Gruss :)

    Para

    Hello,

    You will find the answer in the manual: C:\Users\user\Documents\Aerofly FS 2\aircraft\p2008\_manual.

    Best, Sylvain

    Hello Sylvain,

    I have already read the readme.

    But I would like to know whether there is the possibility of how realistic to steer with the brakes.

    But not so extreme. As already mentioned, I have already set the controls to minimum and if I only brake a little, the plane reacts too extreme.

    I can not imagine that if I push my foot down two centimeters, the plane almost swings 90 degrees.

    Of course within tolerance. I say that I don't even drive 5kmh and the plane reacts so violently.

    But if there is no other option, then I just use the unrealistic control as suggested in the readme.

    Ah, and thanks for the answer.

    The plane is fun!

    Froher Gruss :)

    Para

    Quote from paranovski

    But not so extreme. As already mentioned, I have already set the controls to minimum and if I only brake a little, the plane reacts too extreme.

    I can not imagine that if I push my foot down two centimeters, the plane almost swings 90 degrees.

    But isn't this the case with all planes in Aerofly?

    I have my sensitivity settings all set to low and yet they are all very touchy.

    Perhaps the issue lies further within the rudder pedals software? Or we need an even more aggressive sensitivity setting in Aerofly.

    I love the p2008, a very fun aircraft. Thanks again Sylvain!

    I think you are right. In my opinion, the sensitivity of the rudder pedals is too strong. Maybe there is still something on the part of IPACS.

    Let's hope the best.

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    Ich denke du hast recht. Die Sensitivität der Ruderpedale sind meiner Meinung nach zu stark in der Wirkungsweise. Vielleicht geht da noch was seitens IPACS.

    Hoffen wir das beste.

    Froher Gruss :)

    Para

    Edited once, last by paranovski (May 5, 2020 at 10:35 AM).

    Ok, let's try this:

    In the P2008.tmd file at line 301 find this block

    Code
                <[product][LeftBrakeProduct][]
                <[string8][Inputs][ LeftBrake.Output 0.5 ]>
            >
            <[product][RightBrakeProduct][]
                <[string8][Inputs][ RightBrake.Output -0.5 ]>
            >

    The 0.5 and -0.5 values are the max angle of the nose wheel. Try reducing the value progressively until you have a realistic behavior.

    Best, Sylvain

    Quote from ZoSoChile

    But isn't this the case with all planes in Aerofly?

    I have my sensitivity settings all set to low and yet they are all very touchy.

    Perhaps the issue lies further within the rudder pedals software? Or we need an even more aggressive sensitivity setting in Aerofly.

    I love the p2008, a very fun aircraft. Thanks again Sylvain!

    i agree, quite a few are but not all. The Turbo Arrow is very twitchy but i think the C172 is ok. When i had a real flying lesson recently i found it so much easier to follow the taxiway line.

    Hello everybody. I have uploaded a new version.

    https://flight-sim.org/filebase/index…4-tecnam-p2008/

    Remove old version and unzip new one in My Documents/Aerofly FS2/aircraft/

    P2008 v1.1 change log

    Model

    Outside rear side windows are now black and opaque (like in the real aircraft).

    Systems

    -Ground brake steering is now much smoother.

    -Electric aileron trim is now disabled when battery is off.

    -Oil pressure rises faster to normal (cold and dark version only).

    -More realistic stick movements.

    Navigation

    Removed the non-operational OBS indicator and replaced it with a DME which displays in the center of the radio. You can read the distance to the selected VOR, the relative ground speed and the estimated time to reach the VOR station.

    Flight model

    -Reworked the flight dynamics to get closer to the real aircraft values.

    -Take off: full power, rotate at 55 KTS. After initial climb, reduce power to 75% and trim the aircraft for a climb rate of about 800FPM at 75 KTS.

    -Max speed of 118 KTS @ 2.450 RPM at 2.000 FT

    -Cruise speed of 110 KTS @ 2.250 RPM at 2.000 FT

    -Reduced nose down tendency in descent.

    Sound

    -Fixed bug that caused door sound to trigger before the door was completely closed.

    -Reworked slightly the engine sound mapping.

    -Reworked ground roll vibrations sound.

    -New fuel pump sound.

    Best, Sylvain

    Edited 2 times, last by sydel7912 (May 24, 2020 at 11:39 AM).

    Hello Sylvain

    I was about 8 months completely removed from the forum, and I knew nothing of your project "Tecnam P2008". Now I just saw it in this latest version that you just uploaded to the Forum. I downloaded it and I love it.

    I flew that plane at the Aeroclub about 5 or 6 years ago, and when I saw it here it surprised me. I especially love the big instruments in the cockpit.

    CONGRATULATION for your second aircraft in this forum.

    You will be amazed by this childish question: which switches should I activate before activating the ignition key? I can't start the engine.

    I repeat: a magnificent flying machine. Thank you very much for that effort you put at the service of the community; is appreciated.

    Kind regards: Delfiin

    Quote from sydel7912

    Hello everybody. I have uploaded a new version.

    https://flight-sim.org/filebase/index…4-tecnam-p2008/

    Great work Sylvain. Your Tecam 2008 is one of my favorites. It is always a good thing when a developer comes back a does a little tweaking and fine turning to a successful plane. The ground handling always seemed a bit sluggish to me, but, I have never flown a real one and I read the exact same comments about the real world version.


    I am looking forward to flying your update. The DME readout sounds like a handy feature. The improved flight dynamics is also appreciated.


    Thanks for your dedication and especially for making this available as freeware.

    Regards,

    Ray

    Hello again Sylvain

    The switch I asked you about is already discovered.

    And after a short flight, this plane, I would say even flies more agile than the real ULM. I am surprised by its precise and agile maneuverability. Frankly, again I congratulate you. Your aircraf is a worthy companion to the entire IPAC series.

    Thank you again por this machine

    Ragards: Delfin

    Hello Sylvain,

    This is just to confirm your efforts have paid off. Your Tecnam 2008 does indeed have more refined and smoother flight dynamics. A true pleasure to fly. Thank you.

    Regards,

    Ray