A slightly different way of letting IPACS know how patient we really are.

It kind of puts things into perspective, doesn't it? There is still so far to go.

Talk like this forces memories of my pre-ordered MilViz Be350i to resurface. Three years or more ago - IPACS is way ahead.

No matter what they announce or release, we will be soooooooooo over it three weeks later and asking whats next.

They could know how patient you are by simply playing Aerofly FS2. Then they will see on the Steam stats that there are people playing it. It's good for what it is and there's more to come on this early-access journey. We've told them over and over again what we want and its obvious flight sim stuff. Just let them do their thing and enjoy what you've got.

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Just let them do their thing and enjoy what you've got.

I fully agree. The more time the team waste repeating themselves to continues repetitious questions, the longer it's going to take to implement what we would like.

By all means, report errors but the wish lists are getting a bit boring.

Or announcement 0. They are bankrupt. (Just kidding)

You forgot about an improved flight planner with fuel, weight, and vectors to avoid mountains.

Most important for me is night lightning, rain, AI, ATC and pushback/ground service.

Be patient!

Omg, most people with such a to do list would simply give up, emigrate to india or nepal and live there a monks life. I hope the ipacs people won't.

Regards,

Thomas

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Generally I do agree and out of the 26 points Ray mentioned there's not a single important one, except ATC, for me.

In case of the external camera question I had to bump it because I don't even know if someone from IPACS even read it as there has been no reply since more than a month.

You don't think weather and lights on the ground at night are important? Those are my two biggies. Give me those and ATC and I will not ask for anything more.

I just want everything..... so I wait for what is next!

Still have a lot to explore since getting my Rift.

I think part of the point of the original post, as least as I read it, was to point out just how much is not in the sim yet, and how patient we loyal customers have been and will continue to be. Frankly I don't see how such a small team will ever be able to provide all of the things that have been promised or at least implied as coming in the future before even THIS wonderful system will be obsolete.

And I don't WANT everything that we get in other sims, as long as the experience is so thrilling. Even nine months after purchase I still get amazed at how FS 2 can make me feel in VR. I never expect global coverage to be available because it will be too storage intensive. Instead, I have been concentrating on making scenery "strips" that allow me to recreate flight plans that I want to fly. As Geoconvert continues to improve that experience will only get better.

But there are still obvious things the sim lacks, and realistic clouds is one of them. There is no doubt that the clouds as they are now is a turnoff for many would-be users. I like flying at night, so for me a way to add night lighting will be very welcome. It also still needs a real fuel system and mixture controls for the prop planes.

And of course that Holy Grail, the ATC system will be a crowning glory. They seem to have been toiling away on it for a year, so I am sure that it will be the best that is available in a desk top flight sim.

Love the sim, spend 98% of my flight simming time with it, and will never abandon it. But it doesn't hurt to be honest about what can make the best even better!

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Love the sim, spend 98% of my flight simming time with it, and will never abandon it. But it doesn't hurt to be honest about what can make the best even better!

That's how I feel about it. Since Aerofly is early access, and we are essentially beta testers, we would be really poor ones if we were ever anything less than completely honest, both good and bad, about what we think about the sim and its progress.

The Swiss cities look just awful, a grid of street lights at night would be a simple way of giving some urban realism. It would transform the unfortunate glowing buildings look at San Francisco and New York.

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Downtown Zürich

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OK, let see what it really important to us.

Regards,

Ray

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You don't think weather and lights on the ground at night are important? Those are my two biggies. Give me those and ATC and I will not ask for anything more.

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Not IMO. Flying an approach in bad weather in and out of clouds and dropping out of the clouds at the minimum is already a very nice and realistic experience.

I'm not using Aerofly FS2 at night as there's not much in FS2, no landing lights, nothing. X-plane 11 is definitely king of night time lighting.

The approach lights would look very realistic.....but only if you would be flying through very heavy rain with inop wipers.

There would be a lot to do for the IPACS staff to achieve a realistic night flying experience.

I fully agree with 105OE on that one. Night is the only real XPlane strength and I don't really see the point in putting heavy resources to implement a "dimmed light" mode in Aerofly FS2 just like the night in FSX/P3D, it's so way-off.

Personally I don't even see the point in ATC as long as we're alone in the sim. It may bring something if the ATC module works with voice recognition, even if most such ATC modules already available for FSX/P3D are quite average (VoxATC and others). ATC is great when flying on network with human service providers, and there it's much better to radio over dedicated com apps like TeamSpeak and work with assigned radio channel frequencies...

There are so many basics that are lacking to Aerofly FS2 to make a successful open architecture, before to concentrate on details like clickable buttons in an Airbus. The base is very good for a general aviation simulator, it should be finalized in this direction first IMO.

My 2 cents

Antoine

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Well the priority for direct control of Nav Radios and OBS/Course selection seems to be in a 'Not Interested in the Least' box.