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  • Vinicius
  • December 7, 2023 at 11:39 AM
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    • December 7, 2023 at 11:39 AM
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    Every time we are in cruise, with the altitude set, when I set the time to skip, it keeps increasing by 1,000 feet each time, which makes me sad. If I'm at 38,000 feet and I jump 3 times in time I'm at 41,000 feet, losing the T/D time. Why does it keep increasing altitude every time? 🇧🇷

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    • December 7, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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    I confirm this behavior since Skip Time exists including Aerofly FS 4.

    It increases by 1000 FT until reaching a maximum but entering maximum+1000 FT as cruise altitude in the MCDU. The A320 will reach FL390 with FL400 in the MCDU. The A380 will reach FL410 almost in stall situation that has to be handled immediatly by selecting an open descente to FL390.

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    • December 7, 2023 at 11:56 AM
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    This issue is annoying

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    • December 7, 2023 at 2:09 PM
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    Quote from Vinicius

    Every time we are in cruise, with the altitude set, when I set the time to skip, it keeps increasing by 1,000 feet each time, which makes me sad. If I'm at 38,000 feet and I jump 3 times in time I'm at 41,000 feet, losing the T/D time. Why does it keep increasing altitude every time? 🇧🇷

    I said this too- the deep stalls suck

    Kind regards, good day, and bon vol!

    -VolerSuisse333

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    • December 7, 2023 at 5:01 PM
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    Jet-Pack (IPACS)  admin Could you give me an explanation about this annoying case?

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    • December 7, 2023 at 5:19 PM
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    I noticed on pc the 737-900 didn't have the 1000ft increase each skip. I did a Vegas to Miami and time skipped yesterday.

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    • December 7, 2023 at 5:25 PM
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    I noticed on pc the 737-900 didn't have the 1000ft increase each skip. I did a Vegas to Miami and time skipped yesterday.

    To have it, you have to reach your cruise altitude (using skip time), and then another skip time will increase your cruise altitude unless you have reach the maximum one registered somewhere in Aerofly.

    In this case for the Airbus, the FL CRZ in the MCDU will be set 1000 ft more. A320 max FL390 in Aerofly, set FL400 in MCDU.

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    • December 7, 2023 at 7:29 PM
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    Quote from FrankLFRS

    To have it, you have to reach your cruise altitude (using skip time), and then another skip time will increase your cruise altitude unless you have reach the maximum one registered somewhere in Aerofly.

    In this case for the Airbus, the FL CRZ in the MCDU will be set 1000 ft more. A320 max FL390 in Aerofly, set FL400 in MCDU.

    Ok, I flew up to my cruise alt in real time, FL320 was in the FMC and the MCP and was the same after skipping twice. I've had issues in the 747 before on a transatlantic, had a stall at FL420.

    It would be nice to just have a skip to the top of descent, I know you can go to the map and move the plane but that resets the plane.

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    • December 7, 2023 at 7:40 PM
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    Quote from Scobby_Saurus

    I noticed on pc the 737-900 didn't have the 1000ft increase each skip. I did a Vegas to Miami and time skipped yesterday.

    on mobile it also doesn't have 1000 feet, but VNAV bugs when it skips time🇧🇷

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    • December 7, 2023 at 7:51 PM
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    Quote from Vinicius

    on mobile it also doesn't have 1000 feet, but VNAV bugs when it skips time🇧🇷

    What VNAV bug? I can't remember if I was in VNAV or ALT hold. I can't check on mobile as I'm on iOS.

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    • December 7, 2023 at 11:29 PM
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    Is it simulating a mid cruise step climb?

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    • December 7, 2023 at 11:34 PM
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    Quote from Overloaded

    Is it simulating a mid cruise step climb?

    Trying and failing to.

    Kind regards, good day, and bon vol!

    -VolerSuisse333

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    • December 7, 2023 at 11:41 PM
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    Quote from Scobby_Saurus

    Ok, I flew up to my cruise alt in real time, FL320 was in the FMC and the MCP and was the same after skipping twice. I've had issues in the 747 before on a transatlantic, had a stall at FL420.

    It would be nice to just have a skip to the top of descent, I know you can go to the map and move the plane but that resets the plane.

    Can you make it use a vertical speed mode climb or a speed hold mode climb? A step climb inches up at a very low rate of climb. The aim is to prevent a speed drop. A Mach number at FL420 also corresponds to a much lower indicated airspeed so the plane will be getting nearer to the stall the higher it goes.

    Could a workaround be to time jump from a lower level?

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    • December 7, 2023 at 11:47 PM
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    Can you make it use a vertical speed mode climb or a speed hold mode climb? A step climb inches up at a very low rate of climb. The aim is to prevent a speed drop. A Mach number at FL420 also corresponds to a much lower indicated airspeed so the plane will be getting nearer to the stall the higher it goes.

    Could a workaround be to time jump from a lower level?

    A lower level is a workaround as it increases a 1000ft each skip. Did a flight with 3 skips this evening from initial alt at FL300 and 3 skips was FL330, was with the A320. I guess if you doing a long haul flight and want to time skip just set initial cruise lower than usual.

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    • December 8, 2023 at 7:26 AM
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    What cruise altitude have you set in the navigation menu?

    Regards,

    Jan

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    • December 8, 2023 at 12:26 PM
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    Did a flight from the missions menu a320 LAX to JFK. Initial cruise FL300 in MCDU and sim navigation menu. I did 2 time skips and it’s up to FL320. Images show after 2 skips new cruise in mcdu and menu. [Blocked Image: https://imgur.com/a/wRUBdLq]

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    • December 8, 2023 at 12:28 PM
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    Quote from Scobby_Saurus

    Did a flight from the missions menu a320 LAX to JFK. Initial cruise FL300 in MCDU and sim navigation menu. I did 2 time skips and it’s up to FL320. Images show after 2 skips new cruise in mcdu and menu. [Blocked Image: https://imgur.com/a/wRUBdLq]

    This is fs23 but same thing on fs4 pc

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